[DeTomaso] Rear Glass

Will Kooiman will.kooiman at gmail.com
Fri Sep 11 12:47:30 EDT 2015


Mine must be 2 layers of glass with adhesion between them.  It is
specifically for automotive applications.
--
Will

From:  Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
Date:  Friday, September 11, 2015 12:39 PM
To:  Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Cc:  Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>, Jack DeRyke <JDeRyke at aol.com>,
"mbefthomas at comcast.net" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>, "ehpantera at yahoo.com"
<ehpantera at yahoo.com>, "DeTomaso at poca.com" <DeTomaso at poca.com>
Subject:  Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass

That was my confusion last night with the replies.

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On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I thought standard automotive window glass was two layers of safety glass with
> an adhesive between them?
> 
> That is not the same as double pane residential glass that have a gas filled
> gap between the panes.
> 
> Ken
>   
>  
>  
>  
> 
>    From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
>  To: jderyke at aol.com; mbefthomas at comcast.net; ehpantera at yahoo.com;
> rob at dumoulins.net; DeTomaso at poca.com
>  Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 4:19 AM
>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
>   
>  
> 
>    My glass had the same thickness as the original.  Maybe it isn't double
>    pane.  I told the glass shop what I needed, and they said, "Oh, you
>    need double pane safety glass."
> 
>    The bummer was that I polished the original glass, and it looked
>    perfect.  I broke it while I was reinstalling it.  That's why I had to
>    buy new glass in the first place.
> 
>    Kirby - I may have used the same guy you used.  The shop is Woodlands
>    Car Care, on Budde Rd, just south of Sawdust.
> 
>    From: <[1]jderyke at aol.com>
>    Date: Friday, September 11, 2015 at 2:56 AM
>    To: <[2]mbefthomas at comcast.net>, Will Kooiman
>    <[3]will.kooiman at gmail.com>, <[4]ehpantera at yahoo.com>,
>    <[5]rob at dumoulins.net>, <[6]DeTomaso at poca.com>
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
> 
>    Short answer: yes. I used my OEM 1972 rubber gasket with no problems.
>    And you get to choose whether the secondary pane protrudes into the
>    cockpit or into the engine bay. The distance is about 1/4" so its no
>    big deal.
> 
> Does the double pane fit in the original rubber?
> 
>    -----Original Message-----
>    From: Mike Thomas <[7]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
>    To: 'Will Kooiman' <[8]will.kooiman at gmail.com>; 'mark skwarek'
>    <[9]ehpantera at yahoo.com>; jderyke <[10]jderyke at aol.com>; rob
>    <[11]rob at dumoulins.net>; DeTomaso <[12]DeTomaso at poca.com>
>    Sent: Thu, Sep 10, 2015 5:18 pm
>    Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
> Does the double pane fit in the original rubber?
> 
> -----Original
> Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [[13]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
> Will Kooiman
> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 3:59 PM
> To: mark skwarek
> <[14]ehpantera at yahoo.com>; [15]jderyke at aol.com;
> [16]rob at dumoulins.net;
> [17]DeTomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
> 
> I
> had double pane safety glass made at a local glass shop.  Mine was
> cracked, so
> they could use it as a template.
> 
> It was cheap too - under $100, if I recall
> correctly.
> 
> On 9/10/15, 5:39 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of mark skwarek via
> DeTomaso"
> <[18]detomaso-bounces at poca.com on behalf of [19]detomaso at poca.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> >   Some racing organizations require a non-combustible material
> separate
>> >   the engine compartment from the passenger compartment.
>> >
> Mark
>> >   On Thursday, September 10, 2015 4:00 PM, Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
>> >
> <[20]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>> >     FWIW, Larry Stock of PPC-Reno sells an exact
> Lexan repro. Ron Wade in
>> >     WA made a few double-pane rear windows for extra
> sound deadening; I
>> >     have one.  Normally the rear window never gives
> trouble except during
>> >     an engine pull when the distributor cap is left in
> place & contacts
>> >   the
>> >     window during the pull.  One owner found that
> Weber velocity stacks
>> >     also can break the glass during engine removals.
> The window is sort
>> >   of
>> >     part of the rear firewall, but in engine
> fires, the glass invariably
>> >     shatters early, so using Lexan likely does
> not degrade the "safety"
>> >     aspect much. Most 'GR-4s' use plexiglas windows
> so the rear legs of
>> >   the
>> >     factory roll cage can extend though to the
> rear fenders. One year at
>> >     Bonneville, a Swedish Pantera showed up to run
> like this, and the
>> >   SCTA
>> >     Tech Inspectors made them remove the Lexan
> window and substitute a
>> >   thin
>> >     galvanized steel sheet!
>> >
> -----Original Message-----
>> >     From: Rob Dumoulin <[1][21]rob at dumoulins.net>
>> >
> To: Pantera - DeTomaso Mail List <[2][22]DeTomaso at poca.com>
>> >     Sent: Thu, Sep
> 10, 2015 12:20 pm
>> >     Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
>> >   Is there anything
> special about the rear glass?A  It being flat makes
>> >     me
>> >   think that I
> would not have to go through a vendor and get one made
>> >     just for
>> >   a
> Pantera.
>> >     RobA
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   Mine must be 2 layers of glass with adhesion between them.  It is
   specifically for automotive applications.
   --
   Will

   From: Rob Dumoulin <[1]rob at dumoulins.net>
   Date: Friday, September 11, 2015 12:39 PM
   To: Ken Green <[2]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
   Cc: Will Kooiman <[3]will.kooiman at gmail.com>, Jack DeRyke
   <[4]JDeRyke at aol.com>, "[5]mbefthomas at comcast.net"
   <[6]mbefthomas at comcast.net>, "[7]ehpantera at yahoo.com"
   <[8]ehpantera at yahoo.com>, "[9]DeTomaso at poca.com"
   <[10]DeTomaso at poca.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass

   That was my confusion last night with the replies.

   Rob DuMoulin
   904.476.8744
   [11]rob at dumoulins.net
   [12]www.kbsi.co
   [13]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
   On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Ken Green <[14]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
   wrote:

   I thought standard automotive window glass was two layers of safety
   glass with an adhesive between them?
   That is not the same as double pane residential glass that have a gas
   filled gap between the panes.
   Ken
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: Will Kooiman <[15]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   To: [16]jderyke at aol.com; [17]mbefthomas at comcast.net;
   [18]ehpantera at yahoo.com; [19]rob at dumoulins.net; [20]DeTomaso at poca.com
   Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 4:19 AM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
     My glass had the same thickness as the original.  Maybe it isn't
   double
     pane.  I told the glass shop what I needed, and they said, "Oh, you
     need double pane safety glass."
     The bummer was that I polished the original glass, and it looked
     perfect.  I broke it while I was reinstalling it.  That's why I had
   to
     buy new glass in the first place.
     Kirby - I may have used the same guy you used.  The shop is Woodlands
     Car Care, on Budde Rd, just south of Sawdust.
     From: <[1][21]jderyke at aol.com>
     Date: Friday, September 11, 2015 at 2:56 AM
     To: <[2][22]mbefthomas at comcast.net>, Will Kooiman
     <[3][23]will.kooiman at gmail.com>, <[4][24]ehpantera at yahoo.com>,
     <[5][25]rob at dumoulins.net>, <[6][26]DeTomaso at poca.com>
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
     Short answer: yes. I used my OEM 1972 rubber gasket with no problems.
     And you get to choose whether the secondary pane protrudes into the
     cockpit or into the engine bay. The distance is about 1/4" so its no
     big deal.
   Does the double pane fit in the original rubber?
     -----Original Message-----
     From: Mike Thomas <[7][27]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
     To: 'Will Kooiman' <[8][28]will.kooiman at gmail.com>; 'mark skwarek'
     <[9][29]ehpantera at yahoo.com>; jderyke <[10][30]jderyke at aol.com>; rob
     <[11][31]rob at dumoulins.net>; DeTomaso <[12][32]DeTomaso at poca.com>
     Sent: Thu, Sep 10, 2015 5:18 pm
     Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
   Does the double pane fit in the original rubber?
   -----Original
   Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [[13]mailto:[33]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
   Will Kooiman
   Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 3:59 PM
   To: mark skwarek
   <[14][34]ehpantera at yahoo.com>; [15][35]jderyke at aol.com;
   [16][36]rob at dumoulins.net;
   [17][37]DeTomaso at poca.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
   I
   had double pane safety glass made at a local glass shop.  Mine was
   cracked, so
   they could use it as a template.
   It was cheap too - under $100, if I recall
   correctly.
   On 9/10/15, 5:39 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of mark skwarek via
   DeTomaso"
   <[18][38]detomaso-bounces at poca.com on behalf of
   [19][39]detomaso at poca.com>
   wrote:
   >  Some racing organizations require a non-combustible material
   separate
   >  the engine compartment from the passenger compartment.
   >
   Mark
   >  On Thursday, September 10, 2015 4:00 PM, Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
   >
   <[20][40]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
   >    FWIW, Larry Stock of PPC-Reno sells an exact
   Lexan repro. Ron Wade in
   >    WA made a few double-pane rear windows for extra
   sound deadening; I
   >    have one.  Normally the rear window never gives
   trouble except during
   >    an engine pull when the distributor cap is left in
   place & contacts
   >  the
   >    window during the pull.  One owner found that
   Weber velocity stacks
   >    also can break the glass during engine removals.
   The window is sort
   >  of
   >    part of the rear firewall, but in engine
   fires, the glass invariably
   >    shatters early, so using Lexan likely does
   not degrade the "safety"
   >    aspect much. Most 'GR-4s' use plexiglas windows
   so the rear legs of
   >  the
   >    factory roll cage can extend though to the
   rear fenders. One year at
   >    Bonneville, a Swedish Pantera showed up to run
   like this, and the
   >  SCTA
   >    Tech Inspectors made them remove the Lexan
   window and substitute a
   >  thin
   >    galvanized steel sheet!
   >
   -----Original Message-----
   >    From: Rob Dumoulin <[1][21][41]rob at dumoulins.net>
   >
   To: Pantera - DeTomaso Mail List <[2][22][42]DeTomaso at poca.com>
   >    Sent: Thu, Sep
   10, 2015 12:20 pm
   >    Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
   >  Is there anything
   special about the rear glass?A  It being flat makes
   >    me
   >  think that I
   would not have to go through a vendor and get one made
   >    just for
   >  a
   Pantera.
   >    RobA
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