[DeTomaso] Rear Glass
Ken Green
kenn_green at yahoo.com
Fri Sep 11 12:32:50 EDT 2015
I thought standard automotive window glass was two layers of safety glass with an adhesive between them?
That is not the same as double pane residential glass that have a gas filled gap between the panes.
Ken
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
My glass had the same thickness as the original. Maybe it isn't double
pane. I told the glass shop what I needed, and they said, "Oh, you
need double pane safety glass."
The bummer was that I polished the original glass, and it looked
perfect. I broke it while I was reinstalling it. That's why I had to
buy new glass in the first place.
Kirby - I may have used the same guy you used. The shop is Woodlands
Car Care, on Budde Rd, just south of Sawdust.
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Date: Friday, September 11, 2015 at 2:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
Short answer: yes. I used my OEM 1972 rubber gasket with no problems.
And you get to choose whether the secondary pane protrudes into the
cockpit or into the engine bay. The distance is about 1/4" so its no
big deal.
Does the double pane fit in the original rubber?
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Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
Does the double pane fit in the original rubber?
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
I
had double pane safety glass made at a local glass shop. Mine was
cracked, so
they could use it as a template.
It was cheap too - under $100, if I recall
correctly.
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DeTomaso"
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wrote:
> Some racing organizations require a non-combustible material
separate
> the engine compartment from the passenger compartment.
>
Mark
> On Thursday, September 10, 2015 4:00 PM, Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
>
<[20]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> FWIW, Larry Stock of PPC-Reno sells an exact
Lexan repro. Ron Wade in
> WA made a few double-pane rear windows for extra
sound deadening; I
> have one. Normally the rear window never gives
trouble except during
> an engine pull when the distributor cap is left in
place & contacts
> the
> window during the pull. One owner found that
Weber velocity stacks
> also can break the glass during engine removals.
The window is sort
> of
> part of the rear firewall, but in engine
fires, the glass invariably
> shatters early, so using Lexan likely does
not degrade the "safety"
> aspect much. Most 'GR-4s' use plexiglas windows
so the rear legs of
> the
> factory roll cage can extend though to the
rear fenders. One year at
> Bonneville, a Swedish Pantera showed up to run
like this, and the
> SCTA
> Tech Inspectors made them remove the Lexan
window and substitute a
> thin
> galvanized steel sheet!
>
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10, 2015 12:20 pm
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
> Is there anything
special about the rear glass?A It being flat makes
> me
> think that I
would not have to go through a vendor and get one made
> just for
> a
Pantera.
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I thought standard automotive window glass was two layers of safety
glass with an adhesive between them?
That is not the same as double pane residential glass that have a gas
filled gap between the panes.
Ken
__________________________________________________________________
From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
To: jderyke at aol.com; mbefthomas at comcast.net; ehpantera at yahoo.com;
rob at dumoulins.net; DeTomaso at poca.com
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 4:19 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
My glass had the same thickness as the original. Maybe it isn't
double
pane. I told the glass shop what I needed, and they said, "Oh, you
need double pane safety glass."
The bummer was that I polished the original glass, and it looked
perfect. I broke it while I was reinstalling it. That's why I had
to
buy new glass in the first place.
Kirby - I may have used the same guy you used. The shop is Woodlands
Car Care, on Budde Rd, just south of Sawdust.
From: <[1][1]jderyke at aol.com>
Date: Friday, September 11, 2015 at 2:56 AM
To: <[2][2]mbefthomas at comcast.net>, Will Kooiman
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<[5][5]rob at dumoulins.net>, <[6][6]DeTomaso at poca.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
Short answer: yes. I used my OEM 1972 rubber gasket with no problems.
And you get to choose whether the secondary pane protrudes into the
cockpit or into the engine bay. The distance is about 1/4" so its no
big deal.
Does the double pane fit in the original rubber?
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Thomas <[7][7]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
To: 'Will Kooiman' <[8][8]will.kooiman at gmail.com>; 'mark skwarek'
<[9][9]ehpantera at yahoo.com>; jderyke <[10][10]jderyke at aol.com>; rob
<[11][11]rob at dumoulins.net>; DeTomaso <[12][12]DeTomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Thu, Sep 10, 2015 5:18 pm
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
Does the double pane fit in the original rubber?
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Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 3:59 PM
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
I
had double pane safety glass made at a local glass shop. Mine was
cracked, so
they could use it as a template.
It was cheap too - under $100, if I recall
correctly.
On 9/10/15, 5:39 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of mark skwarek via
DeTomaso"
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[19][19]detomaso at poca.com>
wrote:
> Some racing organizations require a non-combustible material
separate
> the engine compartment from the passenger compartment.
>
Mark
> On Thursday, September 10, 2015 4:00 PM, Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
>
<[20][20]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> FWIW, Larry Stock of PPC-Reno sells an exact
Lexan repro. Ron Wade in
> WA made a few double-pane rear windows for extra
sound deadening; I
> have one. Normally the rear window never gives
trouble except during
> an engine pull when the distributor cap is left in
place & contacts
> the
> window during the pull. One owner found that
Weber velocity stacks
> also can break the glass during engine removals.
The window is sort
> of
> part of the rear firewall, but in engine
fires, the glass invariably
> shatters early, so using Lexan likely does
not degrade the "safety"
> aspect much. Most 'GR-4s' use plexiglas windows
so the rear legs of
> the
> factory roll cage can extend though to the
rear fenders. One year at
> Bonneville, a Swedish Pantera showed up to run
like this, and the
> SCTA
> Tech Inspectors made them remove the Lexan
window and substitute a
> thin
> galvanized steel sheet!
>
-----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Dumoulin <[1][21][21]rob at dumoulins.net>
>
To: Pantera - DeTomaso Mail List <[2][22][22]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Thu, Sep
10, 2015 12:20 pm
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
> Is there anything
special about the rear glass?A It being flat makes
> me
> think that I
would not have to go through a vendor and get one made
> just for
> a
Pantera.
> RobA
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