[DeTomaso] '74 Taillight Lens

Michael Shortt michaelsavga at gmail.com
Sun Nov 29 21:53:15 EST 2015


Interesting, could either of you provide photos?
Curious if the Fastner guy was late that week, any chance your serial
numbers are close together?

Michael Shortt
On Nov 29, 2015 8:56 PM, "Larry Weston" <lplugw at hotmail.com> wrote:

> I have a set of euro tail lamps with the 'wood' screw threads (photo), and
> another set with the machine screw threads. Never thought about about it
> until the subject was raised here.
> All eight fasteners in the two 'wood' screw lamp assemblies are the same
> and most have a nice little nylon washer too. And no cracks either, unlike
> the  other set with the machine screws.
> Oh well, yet another production variation.
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> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 10:24 AM
> To: Michael Shortt
> Cc: Mike Drew; detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '74 Taillight Lens
>
> Thanks, Michael
>
> Curiously, the diameter of the existing threaded hole is smaller than
> the 4mm .70 tap.  That is why it seemed to me as though it may be
> factory. Regardless, it appears no JB Weld would be required to prepare
> it for a machine crew.
>
> That said, I may be completely wrong and the wood screw has simply
> mangled the orifice to create blockage of the tap with ultimately no
> solid footing to cut it's threads.  I guess I won't know until I press
> the issue with the tap.
>
> JT
>
> On 11/28/2015 2:30 PM, Michael Shortt wrote:
> >
> > Ditto, that is all I have seen as well. I think I would fill the hole
> > with JB Weld, after it dries, drill and tap it for the appropriate screw.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > On Nov 28, 2015 3:16 PM, "John Taphorn" <jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com
> > <mailto:jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     I suspect you are correct.  Perhaps, Mr. Finch can weigh in as he
> >     has probably seen as many as anyone.
> >
> >     JT
> >     On 11/28/2015 1:24 PM, Mike Drew wrote:
> >
> >         JT,
> >
> >         I've never seen a taillight that didn't use machine screws
> >         with unique, barrel-shaped heads. I think your light got
> >         Bubbafied at some point....
> >
> >         Mike
> >
> >         Sent from my iPad
> >
> >             On Nov 28, 2015, at 11:17 AM, John Taphorn
> >             <jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com
> >             <mailto:jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>> wrote:
> >
> >             Presently, I am restoring a '74 Pantera.  Upon separation
> >             of the rear taillight lens from their Carello buckets, I
> >             noticed that the lenses were held to the bucket by a screw
> >             with "wood" style threads.  I assumed a PO, or their
> >             mechanic, had swapped from the proper 4mm x .70 bolt in an
> >             act of laziness.  However, when I inspect the threaded
> >             hole in the bucket carefully, it does not appear to have
> >             ever been threaded for the 4mm.  I attempted to chase on
> >             of the bucket holes with a proper tap and the tap was not
> >             welcomed so I didn't push it.
> >
> >             My '73 Carellos are machine threaded.  Any insights as to
> >             whether the factory made a thread change or are my Carello
> >             buckets buggered beyond recognition.  Fortunately, not
> >             beyond help.
> >
> >             Thanks
> >             JT
> >
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   Interesting, could either of you provide photos?
   Curious if the Fastner guy was late that week, any chance your serial
   numbers are close together?

   Michael Shortt

   On Nov 29, 2015 8:56 PM, "Larry Weston" <[1]lplugw at hotmail.com> wrote:

     I have a set of euro tail lamps with the 'wood' screw threads
     (photo), and another set with the machine screw threads. Never
     thought about about it until the subject was raised here.
     All eight fasteners in the two 'wood' screw lamp assemblies are the
     same and most have a nice little nylon washer too. And no cracks
     either, unlike theA  other set with the machine screws.
     Oh well, yet another production variation.
     ________________________________________
     From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of John
     Taphorn <[3]jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>
     Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 10:24 AM
     To: Michael Shortt
     Cc: Mike Drew; [4]detomaso at poca.com
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '74 Taillight Lens
     Thanks, Michael
     Curiously, the diameter of the existing threaded hole is smaller
     than
     the 4mm .70 tap.A  That is why it seemed to me as though it may be
     factory. Regardless, it appears no JB Weld would be required to
     prepare
     it for a machine crew.
     That said, I may be completely wrong and the wood screw has simply
     mangled the orifice to create blockage of the tap with ultimately no
     solid footing to cut it's threads.A  I guess I won't know until I
     press
     the issue with the tap.
     JT
     On 11/28/2015 2:30 PM, Michael Shortt wrote:
     >
     > Ditto, that is all I have seen as well. I think I would fill the
     hole
     > with JB Weld, after it dries, drill and tap it for the appropriate
     screw.
     >
     > Michael
     >
     > On Nov 28, 2015 3:16 PM, "John Taphorn"
     <[5]jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com
     > <mailto:[6]jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>> wrote:
     >
     >A  A  A I suspect you are correct.A  Perhaps, Mr. Finch can weigh
     in as he
     >A  A  A has probably seen as many as anyone.
     >
     >A  A  A JT
     >A  A  A On 11/28/2015 1:24 PM, Mike Drew wrote:
     >
     >A  A  A  A  A JT,
     >
     >A  A  A  A  A I've never seen a taillight that didn't use machine
     screws
     >A  A  A  A  A with unique, barrel-shaped heads. I think your light
     got
     >A  A  A  A  A Bubbafied at some point....
     >
     >A  A  A  A  A Mike
     >
     >A  A  A  A  A Sent from my iPad
     >
     >A  A  A  A  A  A  A On Nov 28, 2015, at 11:17 AM, John Taphorn
     >A  A  A  A  A  A  A <[7]jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com
     >A  A  A  A  A  A  A <mailto:[8]jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>> wrote:
     >
     >A  A  A  A  A  A  A Presently, I am restoring a '74 Pantera.A  Upon
     separation
     >A  A  A  A  A  A  A of the rear taillight lens from their Carello
     buckets, I
     >A  A  A  A  A  A  A noticed that the lenses were held to the bucket
     by a screw
     >A  A  A  A  A  A  A with "wood" style threads.A  I assumed a PO, or
     their
     >A  A  A  A  A  A  A mechanic, had swapped from the proper 4mm x .70
     bolt in an
     >A  A  A  A  A  A  A act of laziness.A  However, when I inspect the
     threaded
     >A  A  A  A  A  A  A hole in the bucket carefully, it does not
     appear to have
     >A  A  A  A  A  A  A ever been threaded for the 4mm.A  I attempted
     to chase on
     >A  A  A  A  A  A  A of the bucket holes with a proper tap and the
     tap was not
     >A  A  A  A  A  A  A welcomed so I didn't push it.
     >
     >A  A  A  A  A  A  A My '73 Carellos are machine threaded.A  Any
     insights as to
     >A  A  A  A  A  A  A whether the factory made a thread change or are
     my Carello
     >A  A  A  A  A  A  A buckets buggered beyond recognition.A
     Fortunately, not
     >A  A  A  A  A  A  A beyond help.
     >
     >A  A  A  A  A  A  A Thanks
     >A  A  A  A  A  A  A JT
     >
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