[DeTomaso] 160 degree thermostat vs 180 degree thermostat
Stephen
steve at snclocks.com
Tue May 19 11:49:53 EDT 2015
Funny story that went to a number of auto parts houses, all came up with
standard thermostats (with no blocking plate) for 73 mustang 351C. Then I
recalled that I had gotten a thermostat for my 70 XKE a few years ago from
OReillys and that it is the same as for the Stangs. So, off to my
spares collection and found a spare thermostat that I bought in 2008. In as
much as OReillys didnt list for the Jag I had asked for a thermostat for
a 73 Mustang. Funniest part is that I then went back to OReillys with
the part number and bought 2 more for spares. Also checked with them
there are lots more at other locations.
Murray 3398
Interestingly, the three I have all have different actuators, but overall
the same dimensions.
Hope that helps.
Stephen Nelson
From: Tomas Gunnarsson [mailto:guson at home.se]
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 4:09 AM
To: steve at snclocks.com
Cc: detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 160 degree thermostat vs 180 degree thermostat
Stephen,
What brand thermostat are you running?
Tomas
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To: detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 160 degree thermostat vs 180 degree thermostat
Interestingly thermodynamics suggests the higher the engine temperature
(within limits) the higher the efficiency. And, as pointed out, less risk of
washing oil off the walls of the cylinders. I'm running a 190 F thermostat
with spring-loaded plate to block off the bypass when the thermostat is
open.
Stephen Nelson
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They claim that the metal of the cylinder walls wear less at higher
temperatures starting at around 170°. I have no printed reference. This is
just from my memory. Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for
there may not be ! )
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Subject: [DeTomaso] 160 degree thermostat vs 180 degree thermostat
I am currently running a 160 degree thermostat, the engine will hold that
temperature while on the hwy. I drove over 50 miles, when I stopped I found
that I had left the cap of the swirl tank. The engine didn't over heat, only
loss 2 cups of water. The car came stock with a 160 degree thermostat. I now
understand that the 180 degree thermostat is better. Outside of the
temperature will be more constant, I really don't see the advantage of a 180
degree thermostat.
Robert Pulsifer
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Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 15:04:21 -0400
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Many Alden shocks leak from the simple o-ring that seals- sort of- the
external damping adjustment near the bottom, not at the shock rod (which is
much more serious). Hall used to repair them when they sold the things. Who
did you buy it from?
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Folks,Noticed oil leaking from front Alden coil overaluminum shock.
Purchased 3/2005. Although likely only 2000 miles on carsince then, they
leak!!! Anyone know of a rebuild kit or if rebuilding ashock by yourself is
doable? Alden isin CA, and it would cost more to shipand pay rebuild charge
than buy a new Shock likely!!!Also any hints in frontshock
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Many Alden shocks leak from the simple o-ring that seals- sort of- the
external damping adjustment near the bottom, not at the shock rod
(which is much more serious). Hall used to repair them when they sold
the things. Who did you buy it from?
-----Original Message-----
Subject: [DeTomaso] Alden Shock Repair
From: [1]detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
Folks, Noticed oil leaking from front Alden coil over aluminum shock.
Purchased 3/200 5. Although likely only
2000 miles on car since then,
they leak!!! Anyone know of a rebuild kit or if rebuilding a shock by
yourself is doable? Alden is in CA, and it would cost more to ship and
pay rebuild charge than buy a new Shoc k likely!!! Also any hints in
front shock removal? Thanks!!!!
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Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 17:11:58 -0400
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It's not a party until somebody gets hurt!
[image: Inline image 1]
Rob DuMoulin
904.476.8744
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> Pretty cool:
> [1]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/05/11/we-test
>
-drove-the-toyota-future-car-that-elon-musk-hates/?wpisrc=nl_tech&wpmm=
> 1
> NOT combustion, makes electricity, does not burn the hydrogen, uses >
hydrogen cell technology:
> [2]http://www.toyota.com/mirai/fcv.html?srchid=sem|google|FCV|Segment_F
>
CV|Hydrogen_Technology|FCV+Copy+Refresh+4.22|Mirai_MLP
> Maybe the end of battery powered cars?
batteries are generally terrible
> for the environment, so this seems a lot better. Maybe weighs a lot >
less, doesn't need hours to charge.
> Ken
>
> References
>
> 1.
>
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/05/11/we-test-drove-t
he-toyota-future-car-that-elon-musk-hates/?wpisrc=nl_tech
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the-toyota-future-car-that-elon-musk-hates/?wpisrc=nl_tech&wpmm=1> &wpmm=1
> 2.
>
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It's not a party until somebody gets hurt!
Inline image 1
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On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Ken Green via DeTomaso
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wrote:
A A Pretty cool:
A
A [1][5]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/05/11
/we-test
A
A
-drove-the-toyota-future-car-that-elon-musk-hates/?wpisrc=nl_tech&
wpmm=
A A 1
A A NOT combustion, makes
electricity, does not burn the hydrogen,
uses
A A hydrogen cell
technology:
A
A [2][6]http://www.toyota.com/mirai/fcv.html?srchid=sem|google|FCV|S
egment_F
A A
CV|Hydrogen_Technology|FCV+Copy+Refresh+4.22|Mirai_MLP
A A Maybe the end of battery
powered cars? batteries are generally
terrible
A A for the environment, so
this seems a lot better.A Maybe weighs
a lot
A A less, doesn't need hours
to charge.
A A Ken
References
A A 1.
[7]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/05/11/we-t
est-drove-the-toyota-future-car-that-elon-musk-hates/?wpisrc=nl_tech
&wpmm=1
A A 2.
[8]http://www.toyota.com/mirai/fcv.html?srchid=sem|google|FCV|Segmen
t_FCV|Hydrogen_Technology|FCV+Copy+Refresh+4.22|Mirai_MLP
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Subject: [DeTomaso] ZF oil choice
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Folks,
Last time I changed ZF oil I used Mobil 1 75-90. Synthetic. Should I still
use that or better to go with conventional oil? recommendations? thanks
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Folks,
Last time I changed ZF oil I used Mobil 1 75-90. Synthetic. Should
I still use that or better to go with conventional oil?
recommendations? thanks
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Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 19:42:56 -0700
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75-90 conventional don't recommend synth in the ZF.
Ed
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> Folks,
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> Last time I changed ZF oil I used
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RedLine 75-90 NS (synthetic)
I get mine on Amazon, usually with free shipping
Here's Les Gray's email from a while ago:
The Red Line oil NSdesignation means that in this particular oil there is NO
additive added to reduce the clutch chatter in most limited slip
differentials.
Normally this additive is a good thing and almost mandatory in cars like the
Corvette which has a fairly high degree of limited slip lock up.
Our cars have a two issues with
these extra slipperyadditives. Number
one is our diff uses a rather low limited slip lock up so this extra slip
actually decreases what little lock up we have. Number two is this
additivewill inhibit our synchro rings abili
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Funny story that - went to a number of auto parts houses, all came up
with standard thermostats (with no blocking plate) for '73 mustang
351C. Then I recalled that I had gotten a thermostat for my '70 XKE a
few years ago from O'Reilly's - and that it is the same as for the
Stangs. So, off to my spares collection and found a spare thermostat
that I bought in 2008. In as much as O'Reilly's didn't list for the
Jag I had asked for a thermostat for a '73 Mustang. Funniest part is
that I then went back to O'Reilly's with the part number and bought 2
more for spares. Also checked with them - there are lots more at other
locations.
Murray 3398
Interestingly, the three I have all have different actuators, but
overall the same dimensions.
Hope that helps.
Stephen Nelson
From: Tomas Gunnarsson [mailto:guson at home.se]
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 4:09 AM
To: steve at snclocks.com
Cc: detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 160 degree thermostat vs 180 degree thermostat
Stephen,
What brand thermostat are you running?
Tomas
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From: Stephen [steve at snclocks.com]
Sent: 19/5/2015 6:03:18 AM
To: [1]detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 160 degree thermostat vs 180 degree thermostat
Interestingly thermodynamics suggests the higher the engine temperature
(within limits) the higher the efficiency. And, as pointed out, less
risk of washing oil off the walls of the cylinders. I'm running a 190 F
thermostat with spring-loaded plate to block off the bypass when the
thermostat is open.
Stephen Nelson
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To: Rob Pulsifer; [3]detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 160 degree thermostat vs 180 degree thermostat
They claim that the metal of the cylinder walls wear less at higher
temperatures starting at around 170DEG. I have no printed reference.
This is just from my memory. Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no
tomorrow -- for there may not be ! )
From: Rob Pulsifer via DeTomaso <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
To: [5]detomaso at poca.com
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 7:27 PM
Subject: [DeTomaso] 160 degree thermostat vs 180 degree thermostat
I am currently running a 160 degree thermostat, the engine will hold
that temperature while on the hwy. I drove over 50 miles, when I
stopped I found that I had left the cap of the swirl tank. The engine
didn't over heat, only loss 2 cups of water. The car came stock with a
160 degree thermostat. I now understand that the 180 degree thermostat
is better. Outside of the temperature will be more constant, I really
don't see the advantage of a 180 degree thermostat.
Robert Pulsifer
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Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 15:04:21 -0400
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Many Alden shocks leak from the simple o-ring that seals- sort of- the
external damping adjustment near the bottom, not at the shock rod
(which is much more serious). Hall used to repair them when they sold
the things. Who did you buy it from?
-----Original Message-----
Subject: [DeTomaso] Alden Shock Repair
From:detomaso at poca.com
Folks,Noticed oil leaking from front Alden coil overaluminum shock.
Purchased 3/2005. Although likely only 2000 miles on carsince then,
they leak!!! Anyone know of a rebuild kit or if rebuilding ashock by
yourself is doable? Alden isin CA, and it would cost more to shipand
pay rebuild charge than buy a new Shock likely!!!Also any hints in
frontshock removal?Thanks!!!!
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Many Alden shocks leak from the simple o-ring that seals- sort of- the
external damping adjustment near the bottom, not at the shock rod
(which is much more serious). Hall used to repair them when they sold
the things. Who did you buy it from?
-----Original Message-----
Subject: [DeTomaso] Alden Shock Repair
From: [1][23]detomaso at poca.com
Folks, Noticed oil leaking from front Alden coil over aluminum shock.
Purchased 3/200 5. Although likely only
2000 miles on car since then,
they leak!!! Anyone know of a rebuild kit or if rebuilding a shock by
yourself is doable? Alden is in CA, and it would cost more to ship and
pay rebuild charge than buy a new Shoc k likely!!! Also any hints in
front shock removal? Thanks!!!!
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 17:11:58 -0400
From: Rob Dumoulin <[34]rob at dumoulins.net>
To: Ken Green <[35]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Cc: DeTomaso <[36]detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPT Hydrogen powered Toyota
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It's not a party until somebody gets hurt!
[image: Inline image 1]
Rob DuMoulin
904.476.8744
[38]rob at dumoulins.net
[39]www.kbsi.co
[40]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Ken Green via DeTomaso
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> Pretty cool:
>
[1][42]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/05/11/we-
test
>
-drove-the-toyota-future-car-that-elon-musk-hates/?wpisrc=nl_tech&wpmm=
> 1
> NOT combustion, makes electricity, does not burn the hydrogen, uses >
hydrogen cell technology:
>
[2][43]http://www.toyota.com/mirai/fcv.html?srchid=sem|google|FCV|Segme
nt_F
>
CV|Hydrogen_Technology|FCV+Copy+Refresh+4.22|Mirai_MLP
> Maybe the end of battery powered cars?
batteries are generally terrible
> for the environment, so this seems a lot better. Maybe weighs a lot >
less, doesn't need hours to charge.
> Ken
>
> References
>
> 1.
>
[44]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/05/11/we-tes
t-drove-the-toyota-future-car-that-elon-musk-hates/?wpisrc=nl_tech&wpmm
=1
> 2.
>
[45]http://www.toyota.com/mirai/fcv.html?srchid=sem|google|FCV|Segment_
FCV|Hydrogen_Technology|FCV+Copy+Refresh+4.22|Mirai_MLP
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It's not a party until somebody gets hurt!
Inline image 1
Rob DuMoulin
904.476.8744
[1][48]rob at dumoulins.net
[2][49]www.kbsi.co
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On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Ken Green via DeTomaso
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wrote:
A A Pretty cool:
A
A
[1][5][52]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/05/11
/we-test
A
A
-drove-the-toyota-future-car-that-elon-musk-hates/?wpisrc=nl_tech&
wpmm=
A A 1
A A NOT combustion, makes
electricity, does not burn the hydrogen,
uses
A A hydrogen cell
technology:
A
A
[2][6][53]http://www.toyota.com/mirai/fcv.html?srchid=sem|google|FCV|S
egment_F
A A
CV|Hydrogen_Technology|FCV+Copy+Refresh+4.22|Mirai_MLP
A A Maybe the end of battery
powered cars? batteries are generally
terrible
A A for the environment, so
this seems a lot better.A Maybe weighs
a lot
A A less, doesn't need hours
to charge.
A A Ken
References
A A 1.
[7][54]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/05/11/we-
t
est-drove-the-toyota-future-car-that-elon-musk-hates/?wpisrc=nl_tech
&wpmm=1
A A 2.
[8][55]http://www.toyota.com/mirai/fcv.html?srchid=sem|google|FCV|Segme
n
t_FCV|Hydrogen_Technology|FCV+Copy+Refresh+4.22|Mirai_MLP
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 22:07:38 -0400
From: Panteratime <[69]panteratime at aol.com>
To: [70]detomaso at poca.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] ZF oil choice
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Folks,
Last time I changed ZF oil I used Mobil 1 75-90. Synthetic. Should I
still use that or better to go with conventional oil? recommendations?
thanks
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Folks,
Last time I changed ZF oil I used Mobil 1 75-90. Synthetic. Should
I still use that or better to go with conventional oil?
recommendations? thanks
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 19:42:56 -0700
From: Ed Mendez <[72]edducati at mac.com>
To: Panteratime <[73]panteratime at aol.com>
Cc: "[74]detomaso at poca.com"
<[75]detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF oil choice
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75-90 conventional don't recommend synth in the ZF.
Ed
Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
> On May 16, 2015, at 19:07, Panteratime via DeTomaso
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> Folks,
>
> Last time I changed ZF oil I used
Mobil 1 75-90. Synthetic.
Should
> I still use that or better to go with conventional oil?
> recommendations? thanks
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 02:36:17 -0400
From: Pantdino <[80]pantdino at aol.com>
To: [81]panteratime at aol.com,
[82]detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF oil choice
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RedLine 75-90 NS (synthetic)
I get mine on Amazon, usually with free shipping
Here's Les Gray's email from a while ago:
The Red Line oil NSdesignation means that in this particular oil there
is NO additive added to reduce the clutch chatter in most limited slip
differentials.
Normally this additive is a good thing and almost mandatory in cars
like the Corvette which has a fairly high degree of limited slip lock
up.
Our cars have a two issues with
these extra slipperyadditives. Number
one is our diff uses a rather low limited slip lock up so this extra
slip actually decreases what little lock up we have. Number two is this
additivewill inhibit our synchro rings abili
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