[DeTomaso] 160 degree thermostat vs 180 degree thermostat
Tomas Gunnarsson
guson at home.se
Tue May 19 13:18:41 EDT 2015
Thanks Stephen, this is excellent info! I went to O'Reilley's site and they list a number of veicles for which this is a match. Among them is a Volvo model which should make it easy to find a local supplier here in Sweden.
Tomas
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Funny story that - went to a number of auto parts houses, all came up with
standard thermostats (with no blocking plate) for '73 mustang 351C. Then I
recalled that I had gotten a thermostat for my '70 XKE a few years ago from
O'Reilly's - and that it is the same as for the Stangs. So, off to my
spares collection and found a spare thermostat that I bought in 2008. In as
much as O'Reilly's didn't list for the Jag I had asked for a thermostat for
a '73 Mustang. Funniest part is that I then went back to O'Reilly's with
the part number and bought 2 more for spares. Also checked with them -
there are lots more at other locations.
Murray 3398
Interestingly, the three I have all have different actuators, but overall
the same dimensions.
Hope that helps.
Stephen Nelson
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Stephen,
What brand thermostat are you running?
Tomas
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Interestingly thermodynamics suggests the higher the engine temperature
(within limits) the higher the efficiency. And, as pointed out, less risk of
washing oil off the walls of the cylinders. I'm running a 190 F thermostat
with spring-loaded plate to block off the bypass when the thermostat is
open.
Stephen Nelson
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They claim that the metal of the cylinder walls wear less at higher
temperatures starting at around 170°. I have no printed reference. This is
just from my memory. Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for
there may not be ! )
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I am currently running a 160 degree thermostat, the engine will hold that
temperature while on the hwy. I drove over 50 miles, when I stopped I found
that I had left the cap of the swirl tank. The engine didn't over heat, only
loss 2 cups of water. The car came stock with a 160 degree thermostat. I now
understand that the 180 degree thermostat is better. Outside of the
temperature will be more constant, I really don't see the advantage of a 180
degree thermostat.
Robert Pulsifer
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Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 15:04:21 -0400
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Many Alden shocks leak from the simple o-ring that seals- sort of- the
external damping adjustment near the bottom, not at the shock rod (which is
much more serious). Hall used to repair them when they sold the things. Who
did you buy it from?
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Folks,Noticed oil leaking from front Alden coil overaluminum shock.
Purchased 3/2005. Although likely only 2000 miles on carsince then, they
leak!!! Anyone know of a rebuild kit or if rebuilding ashock by yourself is
doable? Alden isin CA, and it would cost more to shipand pay rebuild charge
than buy a new Shock likely!!!Also any hints in frontshock
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Many Alden shocks leak from the simple o-ring that seals- sort of- the
external damping adjustment near the bottom, not at the shock rod
(which is much more serious). Hall used to repair them when they sold
the things. Who did you buy it from?
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Subject: [DeTomaso] Alden Shock Repair
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Folks, Noticed oil leaking from front Alden coil over aluminum shock.
Purchased 3/200 5. Although likely only
2000 miles on car since then,
they leak!!! Anyone know of a rebuild kit or if rebuilding a shock by
yourself is doable? Alden is in CA, and it would cost more to ship and
pay rebuild charge than buy a new Shoc k likely!!! Also any hints in
front shock removal? Thanks!!!!
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Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 17:11:58 -0400
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It's not a party until somebody gets hurt!
[image: Inline image 1]
Rob DuMoulin
904.476.8744
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> Pretty cool:
> [1]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/05/11/we-test
>
-drove-the-toyota-future-car-that-elon-musk-hates/?wpisrc=nl_tech&wpmm=
> 1
> NOT combustion, makes electricity, does not burn the hydrogen, uses >
hydrogen cell technology:
> [2]http://www.toyota.com/mirai/fcv.html?srchid=sem|google|FCV|Segment_F
>
CV|Hydrogen_Technology|FCV+Copy+Refresh+4.22|Mirai_MLP
> Maybe the end of battery powered cars?
batteries are generally terrible
> for the environment, so this seems a lot better. Maybe weighs a lot >
less, doesn't need hours to charge.
> Ken
>
> References
>
> 1.
>
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/05/11/we-test-drove-t
he-toyota-future-car-that-elon-musk-hates/?wpisrc=nl_tech
<http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/05/11/we-test-drove-
the-toyota-future-car-that-elon-musk-hates/?wpisrc=nl_tech&wpmm=1> &wpmm=1
> 2.
>
http://www.toyota.com/mirai/fcv.html?srchid=sem|google|FCV|Segment_FCV|Hydro
gen_Technology|FCV+Copy+Refresh+4.22|Mirai_MLP
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On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Ken Green via DeTomaso
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wrote:
A A Pretty cool:
A
A [1][5]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/05/11
/we-test
A
A
-drove-the-toyota-future-car-that-elon-musk-hates/?wpisrc=nl_tech&
wpmm=
A A 1
A A NOT combustion, makes
electricity, does not burn the hydrogen,
uses
A A hydrogen cell
technology:
A
A [2][6]http://www.toyota.com/mirai/fcv.html?srchid=sem|google|FCV|S
egment_F
A A
CV|Hydrogen_Technology|FCV+Copy+Refresh+4.22|Mirai_MLP
A A Maybe the end of battery
powered cars? batteries are generally
terrible
A A for the environment, so
this seems a lot better.A Maybe weighs
a lot
A A less, doesn't need hours
to charge.
A A Ken
References
A A 1.
[7]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/05/11/we-t
est-drove-the-toyota-future-car-that-elon-musk-hates/?wpisrc=nl_tech
&wpmm=1
A A 2.
[8]http://www.toyota.com/mirai/fcv.html?srchid=sem|google|FCV|Segmen
t_FCV|Hydrogen_Technology|FCV+Copy+Refresh+4.22|Mirai_MLP
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Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 22:07:38 -0400
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Subject: [DeTomaso] ZF oil choice
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Folks,
Last time I changed ZF oil I used Mobil 1 75-90. Synthetic. Should I still
use that or better to go with conventional oil? recommendations? thanks
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Folks,
Last time I changed ZF oil I used Mobil 1 75-90. Synthetic. Should
I still use that or better to go with conventional oil?
recommendations? thanks
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Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 19:42:56 -0700
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75-90 conventional don't recommend synth in the ZF.
Ed
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> Folks,
>
> Last time I changed ZF oil I used
Mobil 1 75-90. Synthetic.
Should
> I still use that or better to go with conventional oil?
> recommendations? thanks
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Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 02:36:17 -0400
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RedLine 75-90 NS (synthetic)
I get mine on Amazon, usually with free shipping
Here's Les Gray's email from a while ago:
The Red Line oil NSdesignation means that in this particular oil there is NO
additive added to reduce the clutch chatter in most limited slip
differentials.
Normally this additive is a good thing and almost mandatory in cars like the
Corvette which has a fairly high degree of limited slip lock up.
Our cars have a two issues with
these extra slipperyadditives. Number
one is our diff uses a rather low limited slip lock up so this extra slip
actually decreases what little lock up we have. Number two is this
additivewill inhibit our synchro rings abili
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