[DeTomaso] 160 degree thermostat vs 180 degree thermostat

Tue May 19 07:09:27 EDT 2015

Stephen,

What brand thermostat are you running?

Tomas

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 	  	 From: Stephen [steve at snclocks.com]
Sent: 19/5/2015 6:03:18 AM
To: detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 160 degree thermostat vs 180 degree thermostat 

Interestingly thermodynamics suggests the higher the engine temperature
(within limits) the higher the efficiency. And, as pointed out, less
risk of washing oil off the walls of the cylinders. I'm running a 190 F
thermostat with spring-loaded plate to block off the bypass when the
thermostat is open.

Stephen Nelson

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From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of B Hower
via DeTomaso
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 5:58 PM
To: Rob Pulsifer; detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 160 degree thermostat vs 180 degree thermostat

They claim that the metal of the cylinder walls wear less at higher
temperatures starting at around 170°. I have no printed reference. This
is just from my memory. Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow
-- for there may not be ! )

From: Rob Pulsifer via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
To: detomaso at poca.com
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 7:27 PM
Subject: [DeTomaso] 160 degree thermostat vs 180 degree thermostat

I am currently running a 160 degree thermostat, the engine will hold
that temperature while on the hwy. I drove over 50 miles, when I stopped
I found that I had left the cap of the swirl tank. The engine didn't
over heat, only loss 2 cups of water. The car came stock with a 160
degree thermostat. I now understand that the 180 degree thermostat is
better. Outside of the temperature will be more constant, I really don't
see the advantage of a 180 degree thermostat.

Robert Pulsifer
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4. Re: ZF oil choice (Ed Mendez)
5. Re: ZF oil choice (Pantdino)
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7. Re: ZF oil choice (Ed Mendez)
8. Re: Alden Shock Repair (Ed Mendez)
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Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 15:04:21 -0400
From: jderyke at aol.com
To: julian_kift at hotmail.com,
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detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Alden Shock Repair
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Many Alden shocks leak from the simple o-ring that seals- sort of- the
external damping adjustment near the bottom, not at the shock rod (which
is much more serious). Hall used to repair them when they sold the
things. Who did you buy it from?

-----Original Message-----
Subject: [DeTomaso] Alden Shock Repair
From:detomaso at poca.com
Folks,Noticed oil leaking from front Alden coil overaluminum shock.
Purchased 3/2005. Although likely only 2000 miles on carsince then, they
leak!!! Anyone know of a rebuild kit or if rebuilding ashock by yourself
is doable? Alden isin CA, and it would cost more to shipand pay rebuild
charge than buy a new Shock likely!!!Also any hints in frontshock
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Many Alden shocks leak from the simple o-ring that seals- sort of- the
external damping adjustment near the bottom, not at the shock rod
(which is much more serious). Hall used to repair them when they sold
the things. Who did you buy it from?

-----Original Message-----
Subject: [DeTomaso] Alden Shock Repair
From: [1]detomaso at poca.com
Folks, Noticed oil leaking from front Alden coil over aluminum shock.
Purchased 3/200 5. Although likely only
2000 miles on car since then,
they leak!!! Anyone know of a rebuild kit or if rebuilding a shock by
yourself is doable? Alden is in CA, and it would cost more to ship and
pay rebuild charge than buy a new Shoc k likely!!! Also any hints in
front shock removal? Thanks!!!!
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 17:11:58 -0400
From: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Cc: DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPT Hydrogen powered Toyota
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It's not a party until somebody gets hurt!
[image: Inline image 1]

Rob DuMoulin
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On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Ken Green via DeTomaso
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> Pretty cool:
>
[1]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/05/11/we-test
>
-drove-the-toyota-future-car-that-elon-musk-hates/?wpisrc=nl_tech&wpmm=
> 1
> NOT combustion, makes electricity, does not burn the hydrogen, uses >
hydrogen cell technology:
>
[2]http://www.toyota.com/mirai/fcv.html?srchid=sem|google|FCV|Segment_F
>
CV|Hydrogen_Technology|FCV+Copy+Refresh+4.22|Mirai_MLP
> Maybe the end of battery powered cars?
batteries are generally terrible
> for the environment, so this seems a lot better. Maybe weighs a lot >
less, doesn't need hours to charge.
> Ken
>
> References
>
> 1.
>
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/05/11/we-test-dro
ve-the-toyota-future-car-that-elon-musk-hates/?wpisrc=nl_tech&wpmm=1
> 2.
>
http://www.toyota.com/mirai/fcv.html?srchid=sem|google|FCV|Segment_FCV|H
ydrogen_Technology|FCV+Copy+Refresh+4.22|Mirai_MLP
>
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On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Ken Green via DeTomaso
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wrote:

A A Pretty cool:
A
A [1][5]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/05/11
/we-test
A
A
-drove-the-toyota-future-car-that-elon-musk-hates/?wpisrc=nl_tech&
wpmm=
A A 1
A A NOT combustion, makes
electricity, does not burn the hydrogen,
uses
A A hydrogen cell
technology:
A
A [2][6]http://www.toyota.com/mirai/fcv.html?srchid=sem|google|FCV|S
egment_F
A A
CV|Hydrogen_Technology|FCV+Copy+Refresh+4.22|Mirai_MLP
A A Maybe the end of battery
powered cars? batteries are generally
terrible
A A for the environment, so
this seems a lot better.A Maybe weighs
a lot
A A less, doesn't need hours
to charge.
A A Ken
References
A A 1.
[7]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/05/11/we-t

est-drove-the-toyota-future-car-that-elon-musk-hates/?wpisrc=nl_tech
&wpmm=1
A A 2.
[8]http://www.toyota.com/mirai/fcv.html?srchid=sem|google|FCV|Segmen

t_FCV|Hydrogen_Technology|FCV+Copy+Refresh+4.22|Mirai_MLP

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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 22:07:38 -0400
From: Panteratime <panteratime at aol.com>
To: detomaso at poca.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] ZF oil choice
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Folks,
Last time I changed ZF oil I used Mobil 1 75-90. Synthetic. Should I
still use that or better to go with conventional oil? recommendations?
thanks
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Folks,

Last time I changed ZF oil I used Mobil 1 75-90. Synthetic. Should
I still use that or better to go with conventional oil?
recommendations? thanks

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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 19:42:56 -0700
From: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
To: Panteratime <panteratime at aol.com>
Cc: "detomaso at poca.com"
<detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF oil choice
Message-ID: <77E2AF59-616B-4C18-B6AC-286D23786B0A at mac.com>
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75-90 conventional don't recommend synth in the ZF.

Ed 

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> On May 16, 2015, at 19:07, Panteratime via DeTomaso
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> Folks,
>
> Last time I changed ZF oil I used
Mobil 1 75-90. Synthetic.
Should
> I still use that or better to go with conventional oil?
> recommendations? thanks
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Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 02:36:17 -0400
From: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
To: panteratime at aol.com,
detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF oil choice
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RedLine 75-90 NS (synthetic)

I get mine on Amazon, usually with free shipping

Here's Les Gray's email from a while ago:

The Red Line oil NSdesignation means that in this particular oil there
is NO additive added to reduce the clutch chatter in most limited slip
differentials.
Normally this additive is a good thing and almost mandatory in cars like
the Corvette which has a fairly high degree of limited slip lock up. 
Our cars have a two issues with
these extra slipperyadditives. Number
one is our diff uses a rather low limited slip lock up so this extra
slip actually decreases what little lock up we have. Number two is this
additivewill inhibit our synchro rings abili

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   Stephen,

   What brand thermostat are you running?

   Tomas
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       From: Stephen [steve at snclocks.com]
   Sent: 19/5/2015 6:03:18 AM
   To: detomaso at poca.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 160 degree thermostat vs 180 degree thermostat
   Interestingly thermodynamics suggests the higher the engine temperature
   (within limits) the higher the efficiency. And, as pointed out, less
   risk of washing oil off the walls of the cylinders. I'm running a 190 F
   thermostat with spring-loaded plate to block off the bypass when the
   thermostat is open.
   Stephen Nelson
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of B Hower
   via DeTomaso
   Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 5:58 PM
   To: Rob Pulsifer; detomaso at poca.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 160 degree thermostat vs 180 degree thermostat
   They claim that the metal of the cylinder walls wear less at higher
   temperatures starting at around 170DEG. I have no printed reference.
   This is just from my memory. Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no
   tomorrow -- for there may not be ! )
   From: Rob Pulsifer via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
   To: detomaso at poca.com
   Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 7:27 PM
   Subject: [DeTomaso] 160 degree thermostat vs 180 degree thermostat
   I am currently running a 160 degree thermostat, the engine will hold
   that temperature while on the hwy. I drove over 50 miles, when I
   stopped I found that I had left the cap of the swirl tank. The engine
   didn't over heat, only loss 2 cups of water. The car came stock with a
   160 degree thermostat. I now understand that the 180 degree thermostat
   is better. Outside of the temperature will be more constant, I really
   don't see the advantage of a 180 degree thermostat.
   Robert Pulsifer
   --------------------------------------------
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   2. Re: NPT Hydrogen powered Toyota (Rob
   Dumoulin)
   3. ZF oil choice (Panteratime)
   4. Re: ZF oil choice (Ed Mendez)
   5. Re: ZF oil choice (Pantdino)
   6. Re: ZF oil choice (Pantdino)
   7. Re: ZF oil choice (Ed Mendez)
   8. Re: Alden Shock Repair (Ed Mendez)
   9. Random fun rally pics (Mike Drew)
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   Message: 1
   Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 15:04:21 -0400
   From: jderyke at aol.com
   To: julian_kift at hotmail.com,
   panteratime at aol.com,
   detomaso at poca.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Alden Shock Repair
   Message-ID: <14d5e1ce35c-58aa-2c158 at webprd-m65.mail.aol.com>
   Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
   Many Alden shocks leak from the simple o-ring that seals- sort of- the
   external damping adjustment near the bottom, not at the shock rod
   (which is much more serious). Hall used to repair them when they sold
   the things. Who did you buy it from?
   -----Original Message-----
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Alden Shock Repair
   From:detomaso at poca.com
   Folks,Noticed oil leaking from front Alden coil overaluminum shock.
   Purchased 3/2005. Although likely only 2000 miles on carsince then,
   they leak!!! Anyone know of a rebuild kit or if rebuilding ashock by
   yourself is doable? Alden isin CA, and it would cost more to shipand
   pay rebuild charge than buy a new Shock likely!!!Also any hints in
   frontshock removal?Thanks!!!!
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   Many Alden shocks leak from the simple o-ring that seals- sort of- the
   external damping adjustment near the bottom, not at the shock rod
   (which is much more serious). Hall used to repair them when they sold
   the things. Who did you buy it from?
   -----Original Message-----
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Alden Shock Repair
   From: [1]detomaso at poca.com
   Folks, Noticed oil leaking from front Alden coil over aluminum shock.
   Purchased 3/200 5. Although likely only
   2000 miles on car since then,
   they leak!!! Anyone know of a rebuild kit or if rebuilding a shock by
   yourself is doable? Alden is in CA, and it would cost more to ship and
   pay rebuild charge than buy a new Shoc k likely!!! Also any hints in
   front shock removal? Thanks!!!!
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   Message: 2
   Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 17:11:58 -0400
   From: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
   To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
   Cc: DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPT Hydrogen powered Toyota
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   It's not a party until somebody gets hurt!
   [image: Inline image 1]
   Rob DuMoulin
   904.476.8744
   rob at dumoulins.net
   www.kbsi.co
   http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
   On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Ken Green via DeTomaso
   <detomaso at poca.com>
   wrote:
   > Pretty cool:
   >
   [1]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/05/11/we-test
   >
   -drove-the-toyota-future-car-that-elon-musk-hates/?wpisrc=nl_tech&wpmm=
   > 1
   > NOT combustion, makes electricity, does not burn the hydrogen, uses >
   hydrogen cell technology:
   >
   [2]http://www.toyota.com/mirai/fcv.html?srchid=sem|google|FCV|Segment_F
   >
   CV|Hydrogen_Technology|FCV+Copy+Refresh+4.22|Mirai_MLP
   > Maybe the end of battery powered cars?
   batteries are generally terrible
   > for the environment, so this seems a lot better. Maybe weighs a lot >
   less, doesn't need hours to charge.
   > Ken
   >
   > References
   >
   > 1.
   >
   http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/05/11/we-test-dr
   ove-the-toyota-future-car-that-elon-musk-hates/?wpisrc=nl_tech&wpmm=1
   > 2.
   >
   http://www.toyota.com/mirai/fcv.html?srchid=sem|google|FCV|Segment_FCV|
   Hydrogen_Technology|FCV+Copy+Refresh+4.22|Mirai_MLP
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   It's not a party until somebody gets hurt!
   Inline image 1
   Rob DuMoulin
   904.476.8744
   [1]rob at dumoulins.net
   [2]www.kbsi.co
   [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
   On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Ken Green via DeTomaso
   <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
   wrote:
   A A Pretty cool:
   A
   A [1][5]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/05/11
   /we-test
   A
   A
   -drove-the-toyota-future-car-that-elon-musk-hates/?wpisrc=nl_tech&
   wpmm=
   A A 1
   A A NOT combustion, makes
   electricity, does not burn the hydrogen,
   uses
   A A hydrogen cell
   technology:
   A
   A [2][6]http://www.toyota.com/mirai/fcv.html?srchid=sem|google|FCV|S
   egment_F
   A A
   CV|Hydrogen_Technology|FCV+Copy+Refresh+4.22|Mirai_MLP
   A A Maybe the end of battery
   powered cars? batteries are generally
   terrible
   A A for the environment, so
   this seems a lot better.A Maybe weighs
   a lot
   A A less, doesn't need hours
   to charge.
   A A Ken
   References
   A A 1.
   [7]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/05/11/we-t
   est-drove-the-toyota-future-car-that-elon-musk-hates/?wpisrc=nl_tech
   &wpmm=1
   A A 2.
   [8]http://www.toyota.com/mirai/fcv.html?srchid=sem|google|FCV|Segmen
   t_FCV|Hydrogen_Technology|FCV+Copy+Refresh+4.22|Mirai_MLP
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   Message: 3
   Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 22:07:38 -0400
   From: Panteratime <panteratime at aol.com>
   To: detomaso at poca.com
   Subject: [DeTomaso] ZF oil choice
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   Folks,
   Last time I changed ZF oil I used Mobil 1 75-90. Synthetic. Should I
   still use that or better to go with conventional oil? recommendations?
   thanks
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   Folks,
   Last time I changed ZF oil I used Mobil 1 75-90. Synthetic. Should
   I still use that or better to go with conventional oil?
   recommendations? thanks
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   Message: 4
   Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 19:42:56 -0700
   From: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
   To: Panteratime <panteratime at aol.com>
   Cc: "detomaso at poca.com"
   <detomaso at poca.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF oil choice
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   75-90 conventional don't recommend synth in the ZF.
   Ed
   Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
   > On May 16, 2015, at 19:07, Panteratime via DeTomaso
   <detomaso at poca.com>
   wrote:
   >
   > Folks,
   >
   > Last time I changed ZF oil I used
   Mobil 1 75-90. Synthetic.
   Should
   > I still use that or better to go with conventional oil?
   > recommendations? thanks
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   Message: 5
   Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 02:36:17 -0400
   From: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
   To: panteratime at aol.com,
   detomaso at poca.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF oil choice
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   RedLine 75-90 NS (synthetic)
   I get mine on Amazon, usually with free shipping
   Here's Les Gray's email from a while ago:
   The Red Line oil NSdesignation means that in this particular oil there
   is NO additive added to reduce the clutch chatter in most limited slip
   differentials.
   Normally this additive is a good thing and almost mandatory in cars
   like the Corvette which has a fairly high degree of limited slip lock
   up.
   Our cars have a two issues with
   these extra slipperyadditives. Number
   one is our diff uses a rather low limited slip lock up so this extra
   slip actually decreases what little lock up we have. Number two is this
   additivewill inhibit our synchro rings abili
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