[DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?

Carguy60 sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com
Tue Jun 30 02:11:54 EDT 2015


Thanks for the input from all! Gonna stick to R12 for now. Just need to find out how much is needed. 

Dennis 
7260



> On Jun 29, 2015, at 9:14 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Mainly because US A/C systems are not designed for highly flammable refrigerants, whereas a propoane fuel system is.
> 
> If R12 is available why compromise on safety for a few bucks.
> 
> Julian
> 
> > From: grayjim at cox.net
> > To: andriykoisg at yahoo.ca; terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov; cengles at cox.net; sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com
> > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 23:09:11 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?
> > CC: detomaso at poca.com
> > 
> > So tempted to use the stuff her in OK but law says not to be used in motor 
> > vehicles. Go figure. It's OK to have a giant propane tank in your car but 
> > not to use a highly refined propane in you’re A/C. Who's getting paid off 
> > here?
> > 
> > The original R12 works absolutely great in my car. R134a...not so much.
> > 
> > Jim "Mr. R12" Gray
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: The Goyaniuks
> > Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 8:30 PM
> > To: Himes, Terry (397C) ; Charles Engles ; 'Carguy60'
> > Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?
> > 
> > I have installed DURACOOL (a R12a type system in Canada) 5 years ago in my 
> > wife's car after I replaced the failed airconditioning compressor with a new 
> > one.
> > Works great. I intend to install the same in my Pantera.
> > Highly recommended after a proper job is done (evacuate the system, check 
> > for leaks, fill etc.)
> > BG
> > From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
> > To: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>; 'Carguy60' <sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com>
> > Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 8:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?
> > 
> > Readily available in Sandy Eggo, (Imported from So. of the Border).
> > Contact Dan Miller (Classic Mustang) and POCA/SDP member for name,
> > number
> > and address of contacts.
> > 
> > "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
> > 
> > exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
> > 
> > to contact us!"
> > 
> > Terry W. Himes [cid:4E213040-C2CF-4D73-BFFF-33B922E4588D]
> > 
> > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> > 
> > InSight Sequence Team Lead
> > 
> > Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
> > 
> > Phone: (818) 393-6261
> > 
> > Cell: (818) 653-8213
> > 
> > Fax: (818) 393-3147
> > 
> > [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
> > 
> > From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of Charles
> > Engles <[3]cengles at cox.net>
> > Date: Sunday, June 28, 2015 5:45 PM
> > To: 'Carguy60' <[4]sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com>
> > Cc: "[5]detomaso at poca.com" <[6]detomaso at poca.com>
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?
> > 
> > Dear Dennis,
> > So, with #7260 I assume that your AC still uses R12. My #7171
> > does
> > too. The practical and politically incorrect option that is elegantly
> > simple is to check your local Craigslist for R12 Freon. Old genuine
> > R12 is
> > still out there. As the demand for it is quite low, the price of it
> > has
> > returned to earth compared to the early days before and after the R135
> > transition. Just buy some real R12 and use it without any of the
> > worrisome
> > considerations of substitutes. I used pound of freon to top off the
> > Pantera
> > before the run to Houston.
> > Excommunicated by the Vatican, Chuck Engles
> > ----Original Message-----
> > From: DeTomaso [[7]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
> > Carguy60 via
> > DeTomaso
> > Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 7:08 PM
> > To: [8]deTomaso at POCA.com
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?
> > Here is the link, seems it should work without much retrofit. I don't
> > know a
> > lot about AC systems. Any thoughts from those that do?
> > Dennis
> > 7260
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   Thanks for the input from all! Gonna stick to R12 for now. Just need to
   find out how much is needed.

   Dennis

   7260

   On Jun 29, 2015, at 9:14 PM, Julian Kift <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   wrote:

   Mainly because US A/C systems are not designed for highly flammable
   refrigerants, whereas a propoane fuel system is.
   If R12 is available why compromise on safety for a few bucks.
   Julian
   > From: [2]grayjim at cox.net
   > To: [3]andriykoisg at yahoo.ca; [4]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov;
   [5]cengles at cox.net; [6]sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com
   > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 23:09:11 -0500
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?
   > CC: [7]detomaso at poca.com
   >
   > So tempted to use the stuff her in OK but law says not to be used in
   motor
   > vehicles. Go figure. It's OK to have a giant propane tank in your car
   but
   > not to use a highly refined propane in you're A/C. Who's getting paid
   off
   > here?
   >
   > The original R12 works absolutely great in my car. R134a...not so
   much.
   >
   > Jim "Mr. R12" Gray
   >
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: The Goyaniuks
   > Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 8:30 PM
   > To: Himes, Terry (397C) ; Charles Engles ; 'Carguy60'
   > Cc: [8]detomaso at poca.com
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?
   >
   > I have installed DURACOOL (a R12a type system in Canada) 5 years ago
   in my
   > wife's car after I replaced the failed airconditioning compressor
   with a new
   > one.
   > Works great. I intend to install the same in my Pantera.
   > Highly recommended after a proper job is done (evacuate the system,
   check
   > for leaks, fill etc.)
   > BG
   > From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <[9]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   > To: Charles Engles <[10]cengles at cox.net>; 'Carguy60'
   <[11]sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com>
   > Cc: "[12]detomaso at poca.com" <[13]detomaso at poca.com>
   > Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 8:51 PM
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?
   >
   > Readily available in Sandy Eggo, (Imported from So. of the Border).
   > Contact Dan Miller (Classic Mustang) and POCA/SDP member for name,
   > number
   > and address of contacts.
   >
   > "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
   >
   > exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
   >
   > to contact us!"
   >
   > Terry W. Himes [cid:4E213040-C2CF-4D73-BFFF-33B922E4588D]
   >
   > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   >
   > InSight Sequence Team Lead
   >
   > Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
   >
   > Phone: (818) 393-6261
   >
   > Cell: (818) 653-8213
   >
   > Fax: (818) 393-3147
   >
   > [1][14]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   >
   > From: DeTomaso <[2][15]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of
   Charles
   > Engles <[3][16]cengles at cox.net>
   > Date: Sunday, June 28, 2015 5:45 PM
   > To: 'Carguy60' <[4][17]sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com>
   > Cc: "[5][18]detomaso at poca.com" <[6][19]detomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?
   >
   > Dear Dennis,
   > So, with #7260 I assume that your AC still uses R12. My #7171
   > does
   > too. The practical and politically incorrect option that is elegantly
   > simple is to check your local Craigslist for R12 Freon. Old genuine
   > R12 is
   > still out there. As the demand for it is quite low, the price of it
   > has
   > returned to earth compared to the early days before and after the
   R135
   > transition. Just buy some real R12 and use it without any of the
   > worrisome
   > considerations of substitutes. I used pound of freon to top off the
   > Pantera
   > before the run to Houston.
   > Excommunicated by the Vatican, Chuck Engles
   > ----Original Message-----
   > From: DeTomaso [[7][20]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
   > Carguy60 via
   > DeTomaso
   > Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 7:08 PM
   > To: [8][21]deTomaso at POCA.com
   > Subject: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?
   > Here is the link, seems it should work without much retrofit. I don't
   > know a
   > lot about AC systems. Any thoughts from those that do?
   > Dennis
   > 7260
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