[DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?

grayjim at cox.net grayjim at cox.net
Tue Jun 30 10:12:56 EDT 2015


The only reason I ever considered it was when I could not make the R134a 
work in my car. R12 was my answer but that stuff is just supposed to be 
very efficient.

Don't they use it in Canada? Their A/C systems are no different from the 
US versions, are they?

Jim

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 11:14 PM, Julian Kift wrote:

  Mainly because US A/C systems are not designed for highly flammable 
refrigerants, whereas a propoane fuel system is.

If R12 is available why compromise on safety for a few bucks.

Julian

> From: grayjim at cox.net To: andriykoisg at yahoo.ca; 
> terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov; cengles at cox.net; sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com Date: 
> Mon, 29 Jun 2015 23:09:11 -0500 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C 
> recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ? CC: detomaso at poca.com
> So tempted to use the stuff her in OK but law says not to be used in 
> motor vehicles. Go figure. It's OK to have a giant propane tank in 
> your car but not to use a highly refined propane in you’re A/C.  Who's 
> getting paid off here?
> The original R12 works absolutely great in my car. R134a...not so 
> much.
> Jim "Mr. R12" Gray
>
> -----Original Message----- From: The Goyaniuks Sent: Sunday, June 28, 
> 2015 8:30 PM To: Himes, Terry (397C) ; Charles Engles ; 'Carguy60' Cc: 
> detomaso at poca.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone 
> try Red Tek 12a ?
> I have installed DURACOOL (a R12a type system in Canada) 5 years ago 
> in my wife's car after I replaced the failed airconditioning 
> compressor with a new one. Works great.  I intend to install the same 
> in my Pantera. Highly recommended after a proper job is done (evacuate 
> the system, check for leaks, fill etc.) BG       From: "Himes, Terry 
> (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> To: Charles Engles 
> <cengles at cox.net>; 'Carguy60' <sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com> Cc: 
> "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 
> 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red 
> Tek 12a ?
>   Readily available in Sandy Eggo, (Imported from So. of the Border). 
> Contact Dan Miller (Classic Mustang) and POCA/SDP member for name, 
> number   and address of contacts.
>   "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
>     exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
>     to contact us!"
>   Terry W. Himes  [cid:4E213040-C2CF-4D73-BFFF-33B922E4588D]
>   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>   InSight Sequence Team Lead
>   Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
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>   [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>   From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of Charles 
> Engles <[3]cengles at cox.net>   Date: Sunday, June 28, 2015 5:45 PM 
> To: 'Carguy60' <[4]sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com>   Cc: "[5]detomaso at poca.com" 
> <[6]detomaso at poca.com>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - 
> anyone try Red Tek 12a ?
>   Dear Dennis,           So, with #7260 I assume that your AC still 
> uses R12.  My  #7171   does   too.  The practical and politically 
> incorrect option that is elegantly   simple is to check your local 
> Craigslist for R12 Freon.  Old genuine   R12 is   still out there.  As 
> the demand for it is quite low, the price of it   has   returned to 
> earth compared to the early days before and after the R135 
> transition.  Just buy some real R12 and use it without any of the 
> worrisome   considerations of substitutes.  I used pound of freon to 
> top off the   Pantera   before the run to Houston. 
> Excommunicated by the Vatican,  Chuck Engles   ----Original 
> Message-----   From: DeTomaso [[7]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On 
> Behalf Of   Carguy60 via   DeTomaso   Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 7:08 
> PM   To: [8]deTomaso at POCA.com   Subject: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge 
> - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?   Here is the link, seems it should work 
> without much retrofit. I don't   know a   lot about AC systems. Any 
> thoughts from those that do?   Dennis   7260 
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   The only reason I ever considered it was when I could not make the
   R134a work in my car. R12 was my answer but that stuff is just supposed
   to be very efficient.

   Don't they use it in Canada? Their A/C systems are no different from
   the US versions, are they?

   Jim

   On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 11:14 PM, Julian Kift wrote:

    Mainly because US A/C systems are not designed for highly flammable
   refrigerants, whereas a propoane fuel system is.

   If R12 is available why compromise on safety for a few bucks.

   Julian

   > From: grayjim at cox.net

   > To: andriykoisg at yahoo.ca; terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov; cengles at cox.net;
   sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com

   > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 23:09:11 -0500

   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?

   > CC: detomaso at poca.com

   >

   > So tempted to use the stuff her in OK but law says not to be used in
   motor

   > vehicles. Go figure. It's OK to have a giant propane tank in your car
   but

   > not to use a highly refined propane in youare A/C.  Who's getting
   paid off

   > here?

   >

   > The original R12 works absolutely great in my car. R134a...not so
   much.

   >

   > Jim "Mr. R12" Gray

   >

   >

   > -----Original Message-----

   > From: The Goyaniuks

   > Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 8:30 PM

   > To: Himes, Terry (397C) ; Charles Engles ; 'Carguy60'

   > Cc: detomaso at poca.com

   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?

   >

   > I have installed DURACOOL (a R12a type system in Canada) 5 years ago
   in my

   > wife's car after I replaced the failed airconditioning compressor
   with a new

   > one.

   > Works great.  I intend to install the same in my Pantera.

   > Highly recommended after a proper job is done (evacuate the system,
   check

   > for leaks, fill etc.)

   > BG

   >       From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>

   > To: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>; 'Carguy60'
   <sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com>

   > Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>

   > Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 8:51 PM

   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?

   >

   >   Readily available in Sandy Eggo, (Imported from So. of the Border).

   >   Contact Dan Miller (Classic Mustang) and POCA/SDP member for name,

   >   number

   >   and address of contacts.

   >

   >   "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life

   >

   >     exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried

   >

   >     to contact us!"

   >

   >   Terry W. Himes  [cid:4E213040-C2CF-4D73-BFFF-33B922E4588D]

   >

   >   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

   >

   >   InSight Sequence Team Lead

   >

   >   Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead

   >

   >   Phone: (818) 393-6261

   >

   >   Cell:    (818) 653-8213

   >

   >   Fax:    (818) 393-3147

   >

   >   [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov

   >

   >   From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of Charles

   >   Engles <[3]cengles at cox.net>

   >   Date: Sunday, June 28, 2015 5:45 PM

   >   To: 'Carguy60' <[4]sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com>

   >   Cc: "[5]detomaso at poca.com" <[6]detomaso at poca.com>

   >   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a
   ?

   >

   >   Dear Dennis,

   >           So, with #7260 I assume that your AC still uses R12.  My
   #7171

   >   does

   >   too.  The practical and politically incorrect option that is
   elegantly

   >   simple is to check your local Craigslist for R12 Freon.  Old
   genuine

   >   R12 is

   >   still out there.  As the demand for it is quite low, the price of
   it

   >   has

   >   returned to earth compared to the early days before and after the
   R135

   >   transition.  Just buy some real R12 and use it without any of the

   >   worrisome

   >   considerations of substitutes.  I used pound of freon to top off
   the

   >   Pantera

   >   before the run to Houston.

   >                 Excommunicated by the Vatican,  Chuck Engles

   >   ----Original Message-----

   >   From: DeTomaso [[7]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of

   >   Carguy60 via

   >   DeTomaso

   >   Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 7:08 PM

   >   To: [8]deTomaso at POCA.com

   >   Subject: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?

   >   Here is the link, seems it should work without much retrofit. I
   don't

   >   know a

   >   lot about AC systems. Any thoughts from those that do?

   >   Dennis

   >   7260

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