[DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?

Tue Jun 30 00:14:08 EDT 2015

Mainly because US A/C systems are not designed for highly flammable refrigerants, whereas a propoane fuel system is.

If R12 is available why compromise on safety for a few bucks.

Julian

> From: grayjim at cox.net
> To: andriykoisg at yahoo.ca; terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov; cengles at cox.net; sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com
> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 23:09:11 -0500
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?
> CC: detomaso at poca.com
> 
> So tempted to use the stuff her in OK but law says not to be used in motor 
> vehicles. Go figure. It's OK to have a giant propane tank in your car but 
> not to use a highly refined propane in you’re A/C.  Who's getting paid off 
> here?
> 
> The original R12 works absolutely great in my car. R134a...not so much.
> 
> Jim "Mr. R12" Gray
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: The Goyaniuks
> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 8:30 PM
> To: Himes, Terry (397C) ; Charles Engles ; 'Carguy60'
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?
> 
> I have installed DURACOOL (a R12a type system in Canada) 5 years ago in my 
> wife's car after I replaced the failed airconditioning compressor with a new 
> one.
> Works great.  I intend to install the same in my Pantera.
> Highly recommended after a proper job is done (evacuate the system, check 
> for leaks, fill etc.)
> BG
>       From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
> To: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>; 'Carguy60' <sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 8:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?
> 
>   Readily available in Sandy Eggo, (Imported from So. of the Border).
>   Contact Dan Miller (Classic Mustang) and POCA/SDP member for name,
>   number
>   and address of contacts.
> 
>   "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
> 
>     exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
> 
>     to contact us!"
> 
>   Terry W. Himes  [cid:4E213040-C2CF-4D73-BFFF-33B922E4588D]
> 
>   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
>   From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of Charles
>   Engles <[3]cengles at cox.net>
>   Date: Sunday, June 28, 2015 5:45 PM
>   To: 'Carguy60' <[4]sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com>
>   Cc: "[5]detomaso at poca.com" <[6]detomaso at poca.com>
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?
> 
>   Dear Dennis,
>           So, with #7260 I assume that your AC still uses R12.  My  #7171
>   does
>   too.  The practical and politically incorrect option that is elegantly
>   simple is to check your local Craigslist for R12 Freon.  Old genuine
>   R12 is
>   still out there.  As the demand for it is quite low, the price of it
>   has
>   returned to earth compared to the early days before and after the R135
>   transition.  Just buy some real R12 and use it without any of the
>   worrisome
>   considerations of substitutes.  I used pound of freon to top off the
>   Pantera
>   before the run to Houston.
>                 Excommunicated by the Vatican,  Chuck Engles
>   ----Original Message-----
>   From: DeTomaso [[7]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
>   Carguy60 via
>   DeTomaso
>   Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 7:08 PM
>   To: [8]deTomaso at POCA.com
>   Subject: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?
>   Here is the link, seems it should work without much retrofit. I don't
>   know a
>   lot about AC systems. Any thoughts from those that do?
>   Dennis
>   7260
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   Mainly because US A/C systems are not designed for highly flammable
   refrigerants, whereas a propoane fuel system is.
   If R12 is available why compromise on safety for a few bucks.
   Julian
   > From: grayjim at cox.net
   > To: andriykoisg at yahoo.ca; terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov; cengles at cox.net;
   sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com
   > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 23:09:11 -0500
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?
   > CC: detomaso at poca.com
   >
   > So tempted to use the stuff her in OK but law says not to be used in
   motor
   > vehicles. Go figure. It's OK to have a giant propane tank in your car
   but
   > not to use a highly refined propane in you're A/C. Who's getting paid
   off
   > here?
   >
   > The original R12 works absolutely great in my car. R134a...not so
   much.
   >
   > Jim "Mr. R12" Gray
   >
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: The Goyaniuks
   > Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 8:30 PM
   > To: Himes, Terry (397C) ; Charles Engles ; 'Carguy60'
   > Cc: detomaso at poca.com
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?
   >
   > I have installed DURACOOL (a R12a type system in Canada) 5 years ago
   in my
   > wife's car after I replaced the failed airconditioning compressor
   with a new
   > one.
   > Works great. I intend to install the same in my Pantera.
   > Highly recommended after a proper job is done (evacuate the system,
   check
   > for leaks, fill etc.)
   > BG
   > From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   > To: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>; 'Carguy60'
   <sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com>
   > Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
   > Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 8:51 PM
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?
   >
   > Readily available in Sandy Eggo, (Imported from So. of the Border).
   > Contact Dan Miller (Classic Mustang) and POCA/SDP member for name,
   > number
   > and address of contacts.
   >
   > "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
   >
   > exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
   >
   > to contact us!"
   >
   > Terry W. Himes [cid:4E213040-C2CF-4D73-BFFF-33B922E4588D]
   >
   > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   >
   > InSight Sequence Team Lead
   >
   > Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
   >
   > Phone: (818) 393-6261
   >
   > Cell: (818) 653-8213
   >
   > Fax: (818) 393-3147
   >
   > [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   >
   > From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of Charles
   > Engles <[3]cengles at cox.net>
   > Date: Sunday, June 28, 2015 5:45 PM
   > To: 'Carguy60' <[4]sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com>
   > Cc: "[5]detomaso at poca.com" <[6]detomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?
   >
   > Dear Dennis,
   > So, with #7260 I assume that your AC still uses R12. My #7171
   > does
   > too. The practical and politically incorrect option that is elegantly
   > simple is to check your local Craigslist for R12 Freon. Old genuine
   > R12 is
   > still out there. As the demand for it is quite low, the price of it
   > has
   > returned to earth compared to the early days before and after the
   R135
   > transition. Just buy some real R12 and use it without any of the
   > worrisome
   > considerations of substitutes. I used pound of freon to top off the
   > Pantera
   > before the run to Houston.
   > Excommunicated by the Vatican, Chuck Engles
   > ----Original Message-----
   > From: DeTomaso [[7]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
   > Carguy60 via
   > DeTomaso
   > Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 7:08 PM
   > To: [8]deTomaso at POCA.com
   > Subject: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?
   > Here is the link, seems it should work without much retrofit. I don't
   > know a
   > lot about AC systems. Any thoughts from those that do?
   > Dennis
   > 7260
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