[DeTomaso] Hello Houston, we have a serious problem

Fri Aug 21 23:23:38 EDT 2015

Charlie, 

I would think you'll want to talk to someone who actually has some knowledge re metallurgy.  A fellow I know who has a degree in Welding Engineering told me you can weld in such a way that the weld is stronger than the metal around it, so I wouldn't assume the wheel is toast.

OTOH, if you can't get assurance from someone who really knows it might be wise to get new wheels, fix this one if possible and sell the original pair to someone who has a show car who won't ever drive it fast. 

 Jim Oddie

-----Original Message-----
From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
To: Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>; De Tomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Fri, Aug 21, 2015 11:45 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Hello Houston, we have a serious problem

Charlie,
   You may be able to find a competent shop that could weld and
repair
   that wheel, (or at least say they can) but do you really want to
and
   then trust it? If fatigue has set in, then you are just delaying the

inevitable and much better to catch it now in your driveway/garage,
   than on
a freeway!. You are also likely using your GT5 for far more
   miles than the
average owner, so why take the risk of being stranded
   miles from home.

As I understand the main reason Patrick Hals commissioned new wheels to
   be
cast was the risk of racing on 40 year old fatigued magnesium.
   On a somewhat
related note I had a catastrophic failure of a tire last
   week on the truck,
fortunately I was on a 55 mph highway and obeying
   the posted speed. The
tread completely separated from the tire casing
   and took out part of the
lower front fender with minor lower door
   damage. I have to say it was one of
the scarier moments of my life (and
   looking back to the crap I did as a
teenager that's saying something).
   I hate to think what damage and cost
would result on a Pantera.

   I think you should bite the bullet and buy a
new pair of wheels at a
   minimum, sell off the remaining good one on eBay to
defray some of the
   cost or keep as a spare (not that you can carry it
anywhere though) and
   thoroughly inspect the front wheels!
   Julian

From: charlesmccall at gmail.com
   To: detomaso at poca.com
   Date: Fri, 21 Aug
2015 20:10:41 +0200
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Hello Houston, we have a serious
problem
I noticed that I was losing air on a rear tire, so I took it off to
take a
closer look.

It would appear that my original Campy rim has a
crack. This doesn't look
good.

Is this something that can be repaired by
a competent shop dealing with
magnesium or is this rim scrap?

Any
suggestions? Thank you

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   Charlie,

   I would think you'll want to talk to someone who actually has some
   knowledge re metallurgy.  A fellow I know who has a degree in Welding
   Engineering told me you can weld in such a way that the weld is
   stronger than the metal around it, so I wouldn't assume the wheel is
   toast.

   OTOH, if you can't get assurance from someone who really knows it might
   be wise to get new wheels, fix this one if possible and sell the
   original pair to someone who has a show car who won't ever drive it
   fast.

    Jim Oddie

   -----Original Message-----
   From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   To: Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>; De Tomaso List
   <detomaso at poca.com>
   Sent: Fri, Aug 21, 2015 11:45 am
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Hello Houston, we have a serious problem
Charlie,
   You may be able to find a competent shop that could weld and
repair
   that wheel, (or at least say they can) but do you really want to
and
   then trust it? If fatigue has set in, then you are just delaying the

inevitable and much better to catch it now in your driveway/garage,
   than on
a freeway!. You are also likely using your GT5 for far more
   miles than the
average owner, so why take the risk of being stranded
   miles from home.

As I understand the main reason Patrick Hals commissioned new wheels to
   be
cast was the risk of racing on 40 year old fatigued magnesium.
   On a somewhat
related note I had a catastrophic failure of a tire last
   week on the truck,
fortunately I was on a 55 mph highway and obeying
   the posted speed. The
tread completely separated from the tire casing
   and took out part of the
lower front fender with minor lower door
   damage. I have to say it was one of
the scarier moments of my life (and
   looking back to the crap I did as a
teenager that's saying something).
   I hate to think what damage and cost
would result on a Pantera.

   I think you should bite the bullet and buy a
new pair of wheels at a
   minimum, sell off the remaining good one on eBay to
defray some of the
   cost or keep as a spare (not that you can carry it
anywhere though) and
   thoroughly inspect the front wheels!
   Julian

From: [1]charlesmccall at gmail.com
   To: [2]detomaso at poca.com
   Date: Fri, 21 Aug
2015 20:10:41 +0200
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Hello Houston, we have a serious
problem
I noticed that I was losing air on a rear tire, so I took it off to
take a
closer look.

It would appear that my original Campy rim has a
crack. This doesn't look
good.

Is this something that can be repaired by
a competent shop dealing with
magnesium or is this rim scrap?

Any
suggestions? Thank you

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