[DeTomaso] polish ZF cost estimate
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They'll know it at the car show.
Steve
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To: "Julian Kift" <julian_kift at hotmail.com>, "MikeLDrew" <mikeldrew at aol.com>, "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net>
Cc: "forum, Pantera" <detomaso at poca.com>, michael at michaelshortt.com
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 3:51:40 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] polish ZF cost estimate
When you are running at 140/150 at SSCC or BBORR who will know if it is polished?
Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! )
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From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
To: "MikeLDrew at aol.com" <mikeldrew at aol.com>; Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
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Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] polish ZF cost estimate
Let's face it polishing requires a lot of fine grit wet & dry
sandpaper, rags, metal polishes (of varying grit) and a lot of elbow
grease full stop. You can either put in that effort or pay for the wear
and tear on someone elses elbows.
What we haven't talked about is what you set yourself up for in
continued maintenance by having a polished ZF. You are at some point
going to have to put in more elbow grease to maintain that shiny look,
unless of course you are either a) of sufficient economic stature and
wealth you "Have people to do that for you" or b) want to take the ZF
out each year for a repolish.
Of course you could try to seal the polished surface, but I think that
raises even more concerns on sealing in heat.
Julian
> Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 10:48:02 -0700
> To: cengles at cox.net
> CC: detomaso at poca.com; michael at michaelshortt.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] polish ZF cost estimate
> From: detomaso at poca.com
>
> Another thought--polishing requires a lot of manipulation and it
would be easy to drop the gearbox and damage it.
>
> Dumb idea in other words. :)
>
> Masochists have don't it in the car but they are relying on rags,
metal polish and elbow grease....
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 14, 2014, at 10:38, "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
>
> > Dear Guys,
> >
> >
> > One other consideration of the polisher working on a fully
assembled and presumably, fully functional, *expensive* ZF: if after a
careful and proper polish job *any* malfunction or problem occurs with
the pretty polished ZF, then all eyes and finger would point to the
polisher. He probably wouldn't want that grief and headache.
> >
> >
> > Worst case scenario, Chuck Engles
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
michael at michaelshortt.com
> > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 9:34 AM
> > To: boyd casey
> > Cc: Mike Drew; detomaso at poca.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] polish ZF cost estimate
> >
> > IMHO...I think it would just be a big PIA, so heavy and hard to
move around in the multistep process.
> >
> > Michael
> > On Sep 14, 2014 9:56 AM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Mike,
> >> Do you think that polishing a fully assembled ZF presents A a risk
to
> >> damaging the transaxle? You mentioned people polishing a Trans
axle
> >> while it was still installed. I have posted warnings against sand
> >> blasting and even wet bead blasting while one has an engine or
> >> transaxle installed. I know from A information passed on to me by
my
> >> friend who owns a new water based glass bead blasting business
that
> >> even with substantial efforts made to protect the engine or tranny
it
> >> is very easy to have a A nominal amount of glass beading find it's
way
> >> into the engine or transmission and that's A the death knoll for
> >> either. A I wasn't aware of similar risks to the ZF A due to
polishing.
> >> Thanks,
> >> Boyd
> >>
> >> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 12:58 AM, Mike Drew <[1]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> I think Lloyd Butfoy charges $1200 for polishing. Of course he
would
> >> never do it with the gearbox assembled.
> >> I double any professional polisher will either.
> >> Mike
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Sep 13, 2014, at 21:55, Boyd Casey <[2]boyd411 at gmail.com>
wrote:
> >>> A A Just out of curiosity, I know there will be a wide variance
but
> >> what do
> >>> A A you think we be a reasonable price to polish a fully
assembled zf
> >> dash
> >>> A A -2 with bell housing outside the car. Detached from the motor
and
> >>> A A delivered to a polishing shop. Do you think it would be
necessary
> >> to
> >>> A A take any steps to protect the ZF from intrusion of polish or
any
> >> other
> >>> A A potential problems?
> >>
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> >> References
> >>
> >> 1. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
> >> 2. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
> >> 3. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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They'll know it at the car show.
Steve
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From: "forum, Pantera" <detomaso at poca.com>
To: "Julian Kift" <julian_kift at hotmail.com>, "MikeLDrew"
<mikeldrew at aol.com>, "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net>
Cc: "forum, Pantera" <detomaso at poca.com>, michael at michaelshortt.com
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 3:51:40 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] polish ZF cost estimate
When you are running at 140/150 at SSCC or BBORR who will know if it is
polished?
Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
! )
________________________________
From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
To: "MikeLDrew at aol.com" <mikeldrew at aol.com>; Charles Engles
<cengles at cox.net>
Cc: De Tomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>; "michael at michaelshortt.com"
<michael at michaelshortt.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] polish ZF cost estimate
Let's face it polishing requires a lot of fine grit wet & dry
sandpaper, rags, metal polishes (of varying grit) and a lot of elbow
grease full stop. You can either put in that effort or pay for the
wear
and tear on someone elses elbows.
What we haven't talked about is what you set yourself up for in
continued maintenance by having a polished ZF. You are at some point
going to have to put in more elbow grease to maintain that shiny
look,
unless of course you are either a) of sufficient economic stature
and
wealth you "Have people to do that for you" or b) want to take the
ZF
out each year for a repolish.
Of course you could try to seal the polished surface, but I think
that
raises even more concerns on sealing in heat.
Julian
> Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 10:48:02 -0700
> To: cengles at cox.net
> CC: detomaso at poca.com; michael at michaelshortt.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] polish ZF cost estimate
> From: detomaso at poca.com
>
> Another thought--polishing requires a lot of manipulation and it
would be easy to drop the gearbox and damage it.
>
> Dumb idea in other words. :)
>
> Masochists have don't it in the car but they are relying on rags,
metal polish and elbow grease....
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 14, 2014, at 10:38, "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net>
wrote:
>
> > Dear Guys,
> >
> >
> > One other consideration of the polisher working on a fully
assembled and presumably, fully functional, *expensive* ZF: if after
a
careful and proper polish job *any* malfunction or problem occurs
with
the pretty polished ZF, then all eyes and finger would point to the
polisher. He probably wouldn't want that grief and headache.
> >
> >
> > Worst case scenario, Chuck Engles
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
michael at michaelshortt.com
> > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 9:34 AM
> > To: boyd casey
> > Cc: Mike Drew; detomaso at poca.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] polish ZF cost estimate
> >
> > IMHO...I think it would just be a big PIA, so heavy and hard to
move around in the multistep process.
> >
> > Michael
> > On Sep 14, 2014 9:56 AM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Mike,
> >> Do you think that polishing a fully assembled ZF presents A a
risk
to
> >> damaging the transaxle? You mentioned people polishing a Trans
axle
> >> while it was still installed. I have posted warnings against
sand
> >> blasting and even wet bead blasting while one has an engine or
> >> transaxle installed. I know from A information passed on to me
by
my
> >> friend who owns a new water based glass bead blasting business
that
> >> even with substantial efforts made to protect the engine or
tranny
it
> >> is very easy to have a A nominal amount of glass beading find
it's
way
> >> into the engine or transmission and that's A the death knoll
for
> >> either. A I wasn't aware of similar risks to the ZF A due to
polishing.
> >> Thanks,
> >> Boyd
> >>
> >> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 12:58 AM, Mike Drew
<[1]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> I think Lloyd Butfoy charges $1200 for polishing. Of course he
would
> >> never do it with the gearbox assembled.
> >> I double any professional polisher will either.
> >> Mike
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Sep 13, 2014, at 21:55, Boyd Casey <[2]boyd411 at gmail.com>
wrote:
> >>> A A Just out of curiosity, I know there will be a wide
variance
but
> >> what do
> >>> A A you think we be a reasonable price to polish a fully
assembled zf
> >> dash
> >>> A A -2 with bell housing outside the car. Detached from the
motor
and
> >>> A A delivered to a polishing shop. Do you think it would be
necessary
> >> to
> >>> A A take any steps to protect the ZF from intrusion of polish
or
any
> >> other
> >>> A A potential problems?
> >>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>>
> >>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
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> >>
> >> References
> >>
> >> 1. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
> >> 2. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
> >> 3. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> >> 4. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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