[DeTomaso] fluidyne radiator

Brian Dudley bd8134 at gmail.com
Wed Oct 22 15:46:13 EDT 2014


The Hall Pantera radiator does not have the small vent tube which is top
right on my stock radiator.
Not sure if your car has this hose Michael.
FYI.. I am still using my re-cored original brass radiator, its "layed
down", cooling 626hp, front mounted ac condenser with a water/oil cooler.

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 2:04 PM, michael barnes <
michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

> I think the Hall Pantera radiator looks right for our cars, gonna get one
> now.
>
> thanks
>
> Sent by Michael Barnes
>
> > On 22 Oct 2014, at 05:50, John Donahue <demongusta at me.com> wrote:
> >
> > Do you have a front-mounted a/c condenser with the Hall radiator?
> >
> >> On Oct 21, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Brent Stewart via DeTomaso <
> detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>  +1 with my hall brass radiator. If weight isn't a primary concern, this
> >>  is a great way to go!
> >>  On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:24 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
> >>  <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> >>    In a message dated 10/21/14 12 20 22,
> >>  [1]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
> >>    writes:
> >>      Anywhere in England  i can get a new Fluidyne or similar radiator
> >>      ,chaps
> >>>>> I don't know of any Fluidyne radiator retailers in England.
> >>    One of the world's premier radiator manufacturers is located in the
> >>    industrial park at Silverstone raceway:
> >>    [2]http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
> >>    They make all the cooling bits for most of the F-1 teams, among other
> >>    things.
> >>    I have driven a Pantera equipped with one of their radiators.  It was
> >>    exquisitely built, fantastically expensive, and didn't cool worth a
> >>    damn.  However, I don't blame them--the owner of the car is a fanatic
> >>    about light weight, and he specified that he wanted a radiator that
> >>  was
> >>    smaller than stock to cut down on the weight of the water it
> >>    carried!!!!  His 'reasoning' was that England rarely gets hot enough
> >>  to
> >>    tax a car's cooling system.  I drove his car to Italy in summer heat,
> >>    and the temp needle hovered in the red zone the entire time, but it
> >>    never technically 'overheated'.
> >>    So, having said all that, I'm sure they could build you a proper
> >>    radiator that was adequately sized for the job (I'd use the existing
> >>    unit as a template for sizing purposes).
> >>    Having said all THAT, if it was my money being spent, I'd bypass the
> >>    whole aluminum radiator thing and just get a drop-in brass
> >>  replacement
> >>    from Hall Pantera:
> >>
> >>  [3]
> http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&
> >>  ite
> >
> > Do you have a front-mounted a/c condenser with the Hall radiator?
> >
> >> On Oct 21, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Brent Stewart via DeTomaso <
> detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>  +1 with my hall brass radiator. If weight isn't a primary concern, this
> >>  is a great way to go!
> >>  On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:24 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
> >>  <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> >>    In a message dated 10/21/14 12 20 22,
> >>  [1]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
> >>    writes:
> >>      Anywhere in England  i can get a new Fluidyne or similar radiator
> >>      ,chaps
> >>>>> I don't know of any Fluidyne radiator retailers in England.
> >>    One of the world's premier radiator manufacturers is located in the
> >>    industrial park at Silverstone raceway:
> >>    [2]http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
> >>    They make all the cooling bits for most of the F-1 teams, among other
> >>    things.
> >>    I have driven a Pantera equipped with one of their radiators.  It was
> >>    exquisitely built, fantastically expensive, and didn't cool worth a
> >>    damn.  However, I don't blame them--the owner of the car is a fanatic
> >>    about light weight, and he specified that he wanted a radiator that
> >>  was
> >>    smaller than stock to cut down on the weight of the water it
> >>    carried!!!!  His 'reasoning' was that England rarely gets hot enough
> >>  to
> >>    tax a car's cooling system.  I drove his car to Italy in summer heat,
> >>    and the temp needle hovered in the red zone the entire time, but it
> >>    never technically 'overheated'.
> >>    So, having said all that, I'm sure they could build you a proper
> >>    radiator that was adequately sized for the job (I'd use the existing
> >>    unit as a template for sizing purposes).
> >>    Having said all THAT, if it was my money being spent, I'd bypass the
> >>    whole aluminum radiator thing and just get a drop-in brass
> >>  replacement
> >>    from Hall Pantera:
> >>
> >>  [3]
> http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&
> >>  ite
> >>    m=20270
> >>    Simply put, these things are terrific.  They have something like 30%
> >>    greater heat dissapation versus the stock unit, yet they occupy the
> >>    same space.  They come with modern screw-in thermoswitches and diodes
> >>    to ground the cooling fans to the body too, a nice bonus.  The one in
> >>    my car is more than 20 years old; this past weekend, I drove my
> >>  Pantera
> >>    slowly around Lake Tahoe, sometimes grinding up steep hills in first
> >>    gear behind endless traffic.  My 539 hp engine never got over 190
> >>    degrees.  I could see that the #2 radiator fan was cycling on and
> >>  off,
> >>    indicating that the cooling system was shedding heat efficiently
> >>  enough
> >>    that it wasn't needed all the time, and certainly was not needed
> >>    anytime we went more than about 25-30 mph.  The #1 fan would shut off
> >>    when driving on the highway, even climbing almost 8000-foot
> >>  mountains.
> >>    Best thing about a brass radiator is that any local shop can repair
> >>    it.  If you pick up a rock and hole your Fluidyne radiator, it goes
> >>    into the bin.
> >>    I am using the matching drop-in-replacement pusher fans:
> >>
> >>  [4]
> http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&
> >>  ite
> >>    m=20271
> >>    Great stuff there too.
> >>    Mike
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> >> References
> >>
> >>  1. mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
> >>  2. http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
> >>  3.
> http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&ite
> >>  4.
> http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&ite
> >>  5. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> >>  6. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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   The Hall Pantera radiator does not have the small vent tube which is
   top right on my stock radiator.
   Not sure if your car has this hose Michael.A
   FYI.. I am still using my re-cored original brass radiator, its "layed
   down", cooling 626hp, front mounted ac condenser with a water/oil
   cooler.A

   On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 2:04 PM, michael barnes
   <[1]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

     I think the Hall Pantera radiator looks right for our cars, gonna
     get one now.
     thanks
     Sent by Michael Barnes
     > On 22 Oct 2014, at 05:50, John Donahue <[2]demongusta at me.com>
     wrote:
     >
     > Do you have a front-mounted a/c condenser with the Hall radiator?
     >
     >> On Oct 21, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Brent Stewart via DeTomaso
     <[3]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
     >>
     >>A  +1 with my hall brass radiator. If weight isn't a primary
     concern, this
     >>A  is a great way to go!
     >>A  On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:24 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
     >>A  <[4]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
     >>A  A  In a message dated 10/21/14 12 20 22,
     >>A  [1][5]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
     >>A  A  writes:
     >>A  A  A  Anywhere in EnglandA  i can get a new Fluidyne or similar
     radiator
     >>A  A  A  ,chaps
     >>>>> I don't know of any Fluidyne radiator retailers in England.
     >>A  A  One of the world's premier radiator manufacturers is located
     in the
     >>A  A  industrial park at Silverstone raceway:
     >>A  A  [2][6]http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
     >>A  A  They make all the cooling bits for most of the F-1 teams,
     among other
     >>A  A  things.
     >>A  A  I have driven a Pantera equipped with one of their
     radiators.A  It was
     >>A  A  exquisitely built, fantastically expensive, and didn't cool
     worth a
     >>A  A  damn.A  However, I don't blame them--the owner of the car is
     a fanatic
     >>A  A  about light weight, and he specified that he wanted a
     radiator that
     >>A  was
     >>A  A  smaller than stock to cut down on the weight of the water it
     >>A  A  carried!!!!A  His 'reasoning' was that England rarely gets
     hot enough
     >>A  to
     >>A  A  tax a car's cooling system.A  I drove his car to Italy in
     summer heat,
     >>A  A  and the temp needle hovered in the red zone the entire time,
     but it
     >>A  A  never technically 'overheated'.
     >>A  A  So, having said all that, I'm sure they could build you a
     proper
     >>A  A  radiator that was adequately sized for the job (I'd use the
     existing
     >>A  A  unit as a template for sizing purposes).
     >>A  A  Having said all THAT, if it was my money being spent, I'd
     bypass the
     >>A  A  whole aluminum radiator thing and just get a drop-in brass
     >>A  replacement
     >>A  A  from Hall Pantera:
     >>
     >>A
     [3][7]http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpanter
     a-inc&
     >>A  ite
     >
     > Do you have a front-mounted a/c condenser with the Hall radiator?
     >
     >> On Oct 21, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Brent Stewart via DeTomaso
     <[8]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
     >>
     >>A  +1 with my hall brass radiator. If weight isn't a primary
     concern, this
     >>A  is a great way to go!
     >>A  On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:24 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
     >>A  <[9]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
     >>A  A  In a message dated 10/21/14 12 20 22,
     >>A  [1][10]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
     >>A  A  writes:
     >>A  A  A  Anywhere in EnglandA  i can get a new Fluidyne or similar
     radiator
     >>A  A  A  ,chaps
     >>>>> I don't know of any Fluidyne radiator retailers in England.
     >>A  A  One of the world's premier radiator manufacturers is located
     in the
     >>A  A  industrial park at Silverstone raceway:
     >>A  A  [2][11]http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
     >>A  A  They make all the cooling bits for most of the F-1 teams,
     among other
     >>A  A  things.
     >>A  A  I have driven a Pantera equipped with one of their
     radiators.A  It was
     >>A  A  exquisitely built, fantastically expensive, and didn't cool
     worth a
     >>A  A  damn.A  However, I don't blame them--the owner of the car is
     a fanatic
     >>A  A  about light weight, and he specified that he wanted a
     radiator that
     >>A  was
     >>A  A  smaller than stock to cut down on the weight of the water it
     >>A  A  carried!!!!A  His 'reasoning' was that England rarely gets
     hot enough
     >>A  to
     >>A  A  tax a car's cooling system.A  I drove his car to Italy in
     summer heat,
     >>A  A  and the temp needle hovered in the red zone the entire time,
     but it
     >>A  A  never technically 'overheated'.
     >>A  A  So, having said all that, I'm sure they could build you a
     proper
     >>A  A  radiator that was adequately sized for the job (I'd use the
     existing
     >>A  A  unit as a template for sizing purposes).
     >>A  A  Having said all THAT, if it was my money being spent, I'd
     bypass the
     >>A  A  whole aluminum radiator thing and just get a drop-in brass
     >>A  replacement
     >>A  A  from Hall Pantera:
     >>
     >>A
     [3][12]http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpante
     ra-inc&
     >>A  ite
     >>A  A  m=20270
     >>A  A  Simply put, these things are terrific.A  They have something
     like 30%
     >>A  A  greater heat dissapation versus the stock unit, yet they
     occupy the
     >>A  A  same space.A  They come with modern screw-in thermoswitches
     and diodes
     >>A  A  to ground the cooling fans to the body too, a nice bonus.A
     The one in
     >>A  A  my car is more than 20 years old; this past weekend, I drove
     my
     >>A  Pantera
     >>A  A  slowly around Lake Tahoe, sometimes grinding up steep hills
     in first
     >>A  A  gear behind endless traffic.A  My 539 hp engine never got
     over 190
     >>A  A  degrees.A  I could see that the #2 radiator fan was cycling
     on and
     >>A  off,
     >>A  A  indicating that the cooling system was shedding heat
     efficiently
     >>A  enough
     >>A  A  that it wasn't needed all the time, and certainly was not
     needed
     >>A  A  anytime we went more than about 25-30 mph.A  The #1 fan
     would shut off
     >>A  A  when driving on the highway, even climbing almost 8000-foot
     >>A  mountains.
     >>A  A  Best thing about a brass radiator is that any local shop can
     repair
     >>A  A  it.A  If you pick up a rock and hole your Fluidyne radiator,
     it goes
     >>A  A  into the bin.
     >>A  A  I am using the matching drop-in-replacement pusher fans:
     >>
     >>A
     [4][13]http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpante
     ra-inc&
     >>A  ite
     >>A  A  m=20271
     >>A  A  Great stuff there too.
     >>A  A  Mike
     >>A  _______________________________________________
     >>A  Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
     >>A  DeTomaso mailing list
     >>A  [5][14]DeTomaso at poca.com
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     >>
     >> References
     >>
     >>A  1. mailto:[16]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
     >>A  2. [17]http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
     >>A  3.
     [18]http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-
     inc&ite
     >>A  4.
     [19]http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-
     inc&ite
     >>A  5. mailto:[20]DeTomaso at poca.com
     >>A  6. [21]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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   5. mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
   6. http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
   7. http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&
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   9. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
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  11. http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
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  18. http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&ite
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