[DeTomaso] fluidyne radiator
michael barnes
michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
Thu Oct 23 13:00:54 EDT 2014
Thanks Brian mine does have the vent tube, don't know where it vents to?Better ask Hall P' i guess
Sent by Michael Barnes
> On 22 Oct 2014, at 20:46, Brian Dudley <bd8134 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The Hall Pantera radiator does not have the small vent tube which is top right on my stock radiator.
> Not sure if your car has this hose Michael.
> FYI.. I am still using my re-cored original brass radiator, its "layed down", cooling 626hp, front mounted ac condenser with a water/oil cooler.
>
>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 2:04 PM, michael barnes <michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>> I think the Hall Pantera radiator looks right for our cars, gonna get one now.
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Sent by Michael Barnes
>>
>> > On 22 Oct 2014, at 05:50, John Donahue <demongusta at me.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Do you have a front-mounted a/c condenser with the Hall radiator?
>> >
>> >> On Oct 21, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Brent Stewart via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> +1 with my hall brass radiator. If weight isn't a primary concern, this
>> >> is a great way to go!
>> >> On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:24 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>> >> <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>> >> In a message dated 10/21/14 12 20 22,
>> >> [1]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
>> >> writes:
>> >> Anywhere in England i can get a new Fluidyne or similar radiator
>> >> ,chaps
>> >>>>> I don't know of any Fluidyne radiator retailers in England.
>> >> One of the world's premier radiator manufacturers is located in the
>> >> industrial park at Silverstone raceway:
>> >> [2]http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
>> >> They make all the cooling bits for most of the F-1 teams, among other
>> >> things.
>> >> I have driven a Pantera equipped with one of their radiators. It was
>> >> exquisitely built, fantastically expensive, and didn't cool worth a
>> >> damn. However, I don't blame them--the owner of the car is a fanatic
>> >> about light weight, and he specified that he wanted a radiator that
>> >> was
>> >> smaller than stock to cut down on the weight of the water it
>> >> carried!!!! His 'reasoning' was that England rarely gets hot enough
>> >> to
>> >> tax a car's cooling system. I drove his car to Italy in summer heat,
>> >> and the temp needle hovered in the red zone the entire time, but it
>> >> never technically 'overheated'.
>> >> So, having said all that, I'm sure they could build you a proper
>> >> radiator that was adequately sized for the job (I'd use the existing
>> >> unit as a template for sizing purposes).
>> >> Having said all THAT, if it was my money being spent, I'd bypass the
>> >> whole aluminum radiator thing and just get a drop-in brass
>> >> replacement
>> >> from Hall Pantera:
>> >>
>> >> [3]http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&
>> >> ite
>> >
>> > Do you have a front-mounted a/c condenser with the Hall radiator?
>> >
>> >> On Oct 21, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Brent Stewart via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> +1 with my hall brass radiator. If weight isn't a primary concern, this
>> >> is a great way to go!
>> >> On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:24 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>> >> <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>> >> In a message dated 10/21/14 12 20 22,
>> >> [1]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
>> >> writes:
>> >> Anywhere in England i can get a new Fluidyne or similar radiator
>> >> ,chaps
>> >>>>> I don't know of any Fluidyne radiator retailers in England.
>> >> One of the world's premier radiator manufacturers is located in the
>> >> industrial park at Silverstone raceway:
>> >> [2]http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
>> >> They make all the cooling bits for most of the F-1 teams, among other
>> >> things.
>> >> I have driven a Pantera equipped with one of their radiators. It was
>> >> exquisitely built, fantastically expensive, and didn't cool worth a
>> >> damn. However, I don't blame them--the owner of the car is a fanatic
>> >> about light weight, and he specified that he wanted a radiator that
>> >> was
>> >> smaller than stock to cut down on the weight of the water it
>> >> carried!!!! His 'reasoning' was that England rarely gets hot enough
>> >> to
>> >> tax a car's cooling system. I drove his car to Italy in summer heat,
>> >> and the temp needle hovered in the red zone the entire time, but it
>> >> never technically 'overheated'.
>> >> So, having said all that, I'm sure they could build you a proper
>> >> radiator that was adequately sized for the job (I'd use the existing
>> >> unit as a template for sizing purposes).
>> >> Having said all THAT, if it was my money being spent, I'd bypass the
>> >> whole aluminum radiator thing and just get a drop-in brass
>> >> replacement
>> >> from Hall Pantera:
>> >>
>> >> [3]http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&
>> >> ite
>> >> m=20270
>> >> Simply put, these things are terrific. They have something like 30%
>> >> greater heat dissapation versus the stock unit, yet they occupy the
>> >> same space. They come with modern screw-in thermoswitches and diodes
>> >> to ground the cooling fans to the body too, a nice bonus. The one in
>> >> my car is more than 20 years old; this past weekend, I drove my
>> >> Pantera
>> >> slowly around Lake Tahoe, sometimes grinding up steep hills in first
>> >> gear behind endless traffic. My 539 hp engine never got over 190
>> >> degrees. I could see that the #2 radiator fan was cycling on and
>> >> off,
>> >> indicating that the cooling system was shedding heat efficiently
>> >> enough
>> >> that it wasn't needed all the time, and certainly was not needed
>> >> anytime we went more than about 25-30 mph. The #1 fan would shut off
>> >> when driving on the highway, even climbing almost 8000-foot
>> >> mountains.
>> >> Best thing about a brass radiator is that any local shop can repair
>> >> it. If you pick up a rock and hole your Fluidyne radiator, it goes
>> >> into the bin.
>> >> I am using the matching drop-in-replacement pusher fans:
>> >>
>> >> [4]http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&
>> >> ite
>> >> m=20271
>> >> Great stuff there too.
>> >> Mike
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>> >> References
>> >>
>> >> 1. mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
>> >> 2. http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
>> >> 3. http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&ite
>> >> 4. http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&ite
>> >> 5. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>> >> 6. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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Thanks Brian mine does have the vent tube, don't know where it vents
to?Better ask Hall P' i guess
Sent by Michael Barnes
On 22 Oct 2014, at 20:46, Brian Dudley <[1]bd8134 at gmail.com> wrote:
The Hall Pantera radiator does not have the small vent tube which is
top right on my stock radiator.
Not sure if your car has this hose Michael.
FYI.. I am still using my re-cored original brass radiator, its "layed
down", cooling 626hp, front mounted ac condenser with a water/oil
cooler.
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 2:04 PM, michael barnes
<[2]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
I think the Hall Pantera radiator looks right for our cars, gonna
get one now.
thanks
Sent by Michael Barnes
> On 22 Oct 2014, at 05:50, John Donahue <[3]demongusta at me.com>
wrote:
>
> Do you have a front-mounted a/c condenser with the Hall radiator?
>
>> On Oct 21, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Brent Stewart via DeTomaso
<[4]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>>
>> +1 with my hall brass radiator. If weight isn't a primary
concern, this
>> is a great way to go!
>> On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:24 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>> <[5]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>> In a message dated 10/21/14 12 20 22,
>> [1][6]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
>> writes:
>> Anywhere in England i can get a new Fluidyne or similar
radiator
>> ,chaps
>>>>> I don't know of any Fluidyne radiator retailers in England.
>> One of the world's premier radiator manufacturers is located
in the
>> industrial park at Silverstone raceway:
>> [2][7]http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
>> They make all the cooling bits for most of the F-1 teams,
among other
>> things.
>> I have driven a Pantera equipped with one of their radiators.
It was
>> exquisitely built, fantastically expensive, and didn't cool
worth a
>> damn. However, I don't blame them--the owner of the car is a
fanatic
>> about light weight, and he specified that he wanted a radiator
that
>> was
>> smaller than stock to cut down on the weight of the water it
>> carried!!!! His 'reasoning' was that England rarely gets hot
enough
>> to
>> tax a car's cooling system. I drove his car to Italy in
summer heat,
>> and the temp needle hovered in the red zone the entire time,
but it
>> never technically 'overheated'.
>> So, having said all that, I'm sure they could build you a
proper
>> radiator that was adequately sized for the job (I'd use the
existing
>> unit as a template for sizing purposes).
>> Having said all THAT, if it was my money being spent, I'd
bypass the
>> whole aluminum radiator thing and just get a drop-in brass
>> replacement
>> from Hall Pantera:
>>
>>
[3][8]http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpanter
a-inc&
>> ite
>
> Do you have a front-mounted a/c condenser with the Hall radiator?
>
>> On Oct 21, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Brent Stewart via DeTomaso
<[9]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>>
>> +1 with my hall brass radiator. If weight isn't a primary
concern, this
>> is a great way to go!
>> On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:24 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>> <[10]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>> In a message dated 10/21/14 12 20 22,
>> [1][11]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
>> writes:
>> Anywhere in England i can get a new Fluidyne or similar
radiator
>> ,chaps
>>>>> I don't know of any Fluidyne radiator retailers in England.
>> One of the world's premier radiator manufacturers is located
in the
>> industrial park at Silverstone raceway:
>> [2][12]http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
>> They make all the cooling bits for most of the F-1 teams,
among other
>> things.
>> I have driven a Pantera equipped with one of their radiators.
It was
>> exquisitely built, fantastically expensive, and didn't cool
worth a
>> damn. However, I don't blame them--the owner of the car is a
fanatic
>> about light weight, and he specified that he wanted a radiator
that
>> was
>> smaller than stock to cut down on the weight of the water it
>> carried!!!! His 'reasoning' was that England rarely gets hot
enough
>> to
>> tax a car's cooling system. I drove his car to Italy in
summer heat,
>> and the temp needle hovered in the red zone the entire time,
but it
>> never technically 'overheated'.
>> So, having said all that, I'm sure they could build you a
proper
>> radiator that was adequately sized for the job (I'd use the
existing
>> unit as a template for sizing purposes).
>> Having said all THAT, if it was my money being spent, I'd
bypass the
>> whole aluminum radiator thing and just get a drop-in brass
>> replacement
>> from Hall Pantera:
>>
>>
[3][13]http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpante
ra-inc&
>> ite
>> m=20270
>> Simply put, these things are terrific. They have something
like 30%
>> greater heat dissapation versus the stock unit, yet they
occupy the
>> same space. They come with modern screw-in thermoswitches and
diodes
>> to ground the cooling fans to the body too, a nice bonus. The
one in
>> my car is more than 20 years old; this past weekend, I drove
my
>> Pantera
>> slowly around Lake Tahoe, sometimes grinding up steep hills in
first
>> gear behind endless traffic. My 539 hp engine never got over
190
>> degrees. I could see that the #2 radiator fan was cycling on
and
>> off,
>> indicating that the cooling system was shedding heat
efficiently
>> enough
>> that it wasn't needed all the time, and certainly was not
needed
>> anytime we went more than about 25-30 mph. The #1 fan would
shut off
>> when driving on the highway, even climbing almost 8000-foot
>> mountains.
>> Best thing about a brass radiator is that any local shop can
repair
>> it. If you pick up a rock and hole your Fluidyne radiator, it
goes
>> into the bin.
>> I am using the matching drop-in-replacement pusher fans:
>>
>>
[4][14]http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpante
ra-inc&
>> ite
>> m=20271
>> Great stuff there too.
>> Mike
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>> References
>>
>> 1. mailto:[17]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
>> 2. [18]http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
>> 3.
[19]http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-
inc&ite
>> 4.
[20]http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-
inc&ite
>> 5. mailto:[21]DeTomaso at poca.com
>> 6. [22]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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2. mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
3. mailto:demongusta at me.com
4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
5. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
6. mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
7. http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
8. http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&
9. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
10. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
11. mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
12. http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
13. http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&
14. http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&
15. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
16. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
17. mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
18. http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
19. http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&ite
20. http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&ite
21. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
22. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
23. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
24. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
25. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
26. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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