[DeTomaso] fluidyne radiator

[michael barnes]

I think the Hall Pantera radiator looks right for our cars, gonna get one now.

thanks

Sent by Michael Barnes

> On 22 Oct 2014, at 05:50, John Donahue <demongusta at me.com> wrote:
> 
> Do you have a front-mounted a/c condenser with the Hall radiator?  
> 
>> On Oct 21, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Brent Stewart via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  +1 with my hall brass radiator. If weight isn't a primary concern, this
>>  is a great way to go!
>>  On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:24 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>>  <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>>    In a message dated 10/21/14 12 20 22,
>>  [1]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
>>    writes:
>>      Anywhere in England  i can get a new Fluidyne or similar radiator
>>      ,chaps
>>>>> I don't know of any Fluidyne radiator retailers in England.
>>    One of the world's premier radiator manufacturers is located in the
>>    industrial park at Silverstone raceway:
>>    [2]http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
>>    They make all the cooling bits for most of the F-1 teams, among other
>>    things.
>>    I have driven a Pantera equipped with one of their radiators.  It was
>>    exquisitely built, fantastically expensive, and didn't cool worth a
>>    damn.  However, I don't blame them--the owner of the car is a fanatic
>>    about light weight, and he specified that he wanted a radiator that
>>  was
>>    smaller than stock to cut down on the weight of the water it
>>    carried!!!!  His 'reasoning' was that England rarely gets hot enough
>>  to
>>    tax a car's cooling system.  I drove his car to Italy in summer heat,
>>    and the temp needle hovered in the red zone the entire time, but it
>>    never technically 'overheated'.
>>    So, having said all that, I'm sure they could build you a proper
>>    radiator that was adequately sized for the job (I'd use the existing
>>    unit as a template for sizing purposes).
>>    Having said all THAT, if it was my money being spent, I'd bypass the
>>    whole aluminum radiator thing and just get a drop-in brass
>>  replacement
>>    from Hall Pantera:
>> 
>>  [3]http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&
>>  ite
> 
> Do you have a front-mounted a/c condenser with the Hall radiator?  
> 
>> On Oct 21, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Brent Stewart via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  +1 with my hall brass radiator. If weight isn't a primary concern, this
>>  is a great way to go!
>>  On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:24 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>>  <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>>    In a message dated 10/21/14 12 20 22,
>>  [1]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
>>    writes:
>>      Anywhere in England  i can get a new Fluidyne or similar radiator
>>      ,chaps
>>>>> I don't know of any Fluidyne radiator retailers in England.
>>    One of the world's premier radiator manufacturers is located in the
>>    industrial park at Silverstone raceway:
>>    [2]http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
>>    They make all the cooling bits for most of the F-1 teams, among other
>>    things.
>>    I have driven a Pantera equipped with one of their radiators.  It was
>>    exquisitely built, fantastically expensive, and didn't cool worth a
>>    damn.  However, I don't blame them--the owner of the car is a fanatic
>>    about light weight, and he specified that he wanted a radiator that
>>  was
>>    smaller than stock to cut down on the weight of the water it
>>    carried!!!!  His 'reasoning' was that England rarely gets hot enough
>>  to
>>    tax a car's cooling system.  I drove his car to Italy in summer heat,
>>    and the temp needle hovered in the red zone the entire time, but it
>>    never technically 'overheated'.
>>    So, having said all that, I'm sure they could build you a proper
>>    radiator that was adequately sized for the job (I'd use the existing
>>    unit as a template for sizing purposes).
>>    Having said all THAT, if it was my money being spent, I'd bypass the
>>    whole aluminum radiator thing and just get a drop-in brass
>>  replacement
>>    from Hall Pantera:
>> 
>>  [3]http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&
>>  ite
>>    m=20270
>>    Simply put, these things are terrific.  They have something like 30%
>>    greater heat dissapation versus the stock unit, yet they occupy the
>>    same space.  They come with modern screw-in thermoswitches and diodes
>>    to ground the cooling fans to the body too, a nice bonus.  The one in
>>    my car is more than 20 years old; this past weekend, I drove my
>>  Pantera
>>    slowly around Lake Tahoe, sometimes grinding up steep hills in first
>>    gear behind endless traffic.  My 539 hp engine never got over 190
>>    degrees.  I could see that the #2 radiator fan was cycling on and
>>  off,
>>    indicating that the cooling system was shedding heat efficiently
>>  enough
>>    that it wasn't needed all the time, and certainly was not needed
>>    anytime we went more than about 25-30 mph.  The #1 fan would shut off
>>    when driving on the highway, even climbing almost 8000-foot
>>  mountains.
>>    Best thing about a brass radiator is that any local shop can repair
>>    it.  If you pick up a rock and hole your Fluidyne radiator, it goes
>>    into the bin.
>>    I am using the matching drop-in-replacement pusher fans:
>> 
>>  [4]http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&
>>  ite
>>    m=20271
>>    Great stuff there too.
>>    Mike
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>> References
>> 
>>  1. mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
>>  2. http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
>>  3. http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&ite
>>  4. http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&ite
>>  5. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>>  6. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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