[DeTomaso] If you can't say something nice...Not Your Average Pantera, Meet BKPNTR
Don Franck
panteradon at gmail.com
Mon Nov 17 11:54:13 EST 2014
Great comment Boyd!!
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
> That's a good story and a great come back to the Ferrari snob!
> I think we Pantera owners have become sensitizedA to the year's of
> criticism and misunderstanding by other car marque's and the automotive
> press so some of us may come across a little strongly. There is nothing
> wrong with voicing your opinion as to whether you "like "' or "don't
> like" a particular build. But I agree there is no need to be rude .
> Building a car is an artistic expression, restoring a car is an
> exercises in how close you can come to replicating or surpassing the
> quality of the original build. They are two different things. Art has
> always will and will always be subjective. A restoration can be judged
> on a very definitive point scale. Lets not confuse the two. Let the
> restorer's restore and the builders build and if the owners choose to
> exhibit their work then they have opened themselves up to the criticism
> of the publicA who often know nothing of the subject they are
> commenting on and many don't have the skills or creativity to tie a
> shoe ( That's why so many loafers are sold LOL) But lets try to
> remember that we as pantera owners and as a club have always been know
> for being gentlemen ( and Ladies) and lets try to behave as such. And
> by the way there are many creative ways to comment on an artistic
> endeavor that you don't particularly care for with out being rude, you
> could say "That's an incredible Pantera! ( Incredible that some one
> would spend the time and money to build such a creation) or "That's got
> to be one of the most unique Panteras I have ever seen"A No ones
> needss to have their feelings hurt and you don't have to make false
> compliments. It's simply a matter of semantics.
> JMHO
> Boyd (Back among the living)
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Tom Baranek
> <[1]tbaranek at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> A A I agree Rob,
> A A If you can't find anything nice/neutral to say...silence can go
> a long
> A A way!
> A A I had a regular C6 Corvette pull up near my Pantera and the guy
> said
> A A something nice about my car, so I said "That color looks great
> on your
> A A Vette."
> A A Tom
> A A Message: 11
> A A Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 09:01:10 -0800
> A A From: Rob DOrazio <[1][2]robpantera at sbcglobal.net>
> A A To: "[2][3]detomaso at poca.com" <[3][4]detomaso at poca.com>
> A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Not Your Average Pantera, Meet BKPNTR
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> A A Guys, I have to weigh in on this.A Two weeks ago I was at the
> "Best of
> A A France and Italy" car show in Van Nuys and a guy pulled in with
> a
> A A burgundy mid 60s Ferrari he had rebuilt from a rescued body.A
> He had
> A A aftermarket wheels, an Art Morrison tube chassis and a 500hp
> Small
> A A Block Chevy.A I should also mention that he was running
> without a hood.
> A A He couldn't get grouped with the Ferraris but instead was
> placed in the
> A A "other cars" row.A A I was talking to him and appreciating the
> A A workmanship of his car when he told me that a Ferrari club guy
> with a
> A A mock turtleneck sporting the horse came over and told him the
> car was
> A A an "abomination". The Chevy/Ferrari owner replied "So is coming
> to a
> A A car show in women's clothing".A The frustrated Ferrari club
> member
> A A slinked away.A The Ferrari Club guy should have appreciated
> that at
> A A least this derelict old Ferrari was resurrected creatively and
> back on
> A A the road.
> A A Let's not become the Ferrari club.
> A A Incidentally, I saw the GT40 Pantera in San Diego and it is
> "bitchin".
> A A Rob D'Orazio
> References
> A A 1. file://localhost/tmp/tmp8ja87A.html
> A A 2. file://localhost/tmp/tmp8ja87A.html
> A A 3. file://localhost/tmp/tmp8ja87A.html
> A A 4. file://localhost/tmp/tmp8ja87A.html
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Great comment Boyd!!
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Boyd Casey <[1]boyd411 at gmail.com>
wrote:
That's a good story and a great come back to the Ferrari snob!
I think we Pantera owners have become sensitizedA to the year's
of
criticism and misunderstanding by other car marque's and the
automotive
press so some of us may come across a little strongly. There is
nothing
wrong with voicing your opinion as to whether you "like "' or
"don't
like" a particular build. But I agree there is no need to be rude
.
Building a car is an artistic expression, restoring a car is an
exercises in how close you can come to replicating or surpassing
the
quality of the original build. They are two different things. Art
has
always will and will always be subjective. A restoration can be
judged
on a very definitive point scale. Lets not confuse the two. Let
the
restorer's restore and the builders build and if the owners
choose to
exhibit their work then they have opened themselves up to the
criticism
of the publicA who often know nothing of the subject they are
commenting on and many don't have the skills or creativity to tie
a
shoe ( That's why so many loafers are sold LOL) But lets try to
remember that we as pantera owners and as a club have always been
know
for being gentlemen ( and Ladies) and lets try to behave as such.
And
by the way there are many creative ways to comment on an artistic
endeavor that you don't particularly care for with out being
rude, you
could say "That's an incredible Pantera! ( Incredible that some
one
would spend the time and money to build such a creation) or
"That's got
to be one of the most unique Panteras I have ever seen"A No ones
needss to have their feelings hurt and you don't have to make
false
compliments. It's simply a matter of semantics.
JMHO
Boyd (Back among the living)
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Tom Baranek
<[1][2]tbaranek at earthlink.net> wrote:
A A I agree Rob,
A A If you can't find anything nice/neutral to say...silence
can go
a long
A A way!
A A I had a regular C6 Corvette pull up near my Pantera and
the guy
said
A A something nice about my car, so I said "That color looks
great
on your
A A Vette."
A A Tom
A A Message: 11
A A Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 09:01:10 -0800
A A From: Rob DOrazio <[1][2][3]robpantera at sbcglobal.net>
A A To: "[2][3][4]detomaso at poca.com"
<[3][4][5]detomaso at poca.com>
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Not Your Average Pantera, Meet
BKPNTR
A A Message-ID:
A
A
<[4][5][6]1416157270.52169.YahooMailNeo at web180906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com
>
A A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
A A Guys, I have to weigh in on this.A Two weeks ago I was at
the
"Best of
A A France and Italy" car show in Van Nuys and a guy pulled in
with
a
A A burgundy mid 60s Ferrari he had rebuilt from a rescued
body.A
He had
A A aftermarket wheels, an Art Morrison tube chassis and a
500hp
Small
A A Block Chevy.A I should also mention that he was running
without a hood.
A A He couldn't get grouped with the Ferraris but instead was
placed in the
A A "other cars" row.A A I was talking to him and
appreciating the
A A workmanship of his car when he told me that a Ferrari club
guy
with a
A A mock turtleneck sporting the horse came over and told him
the
car was
A A an "abomination". The Chevy/Ferrari owner replied "So is
coming
to a
A A car show in women's clothing".A The frustrated Ferrari
club
member
A A slinked away.A The Ferrari Club guy should have
appreciated
that at
A A least this derelict old Ferrari was resurrected creatively
and
back on
A A the road.
A A Let's not become the Ferrari club.
A A Incidentally, I saw the GT40 Pantera in San Diego and it
is
"bitchin".
A A Rob D'Orazio
References
A A 1. file://localhost/tmp/tmp8ja87A.html
A A 2. file://localhost/tmp/tmp8ja87A.html
A A 3. file://localhost/tmp/tmp8ja87A.html
A A 4. file://localhost/tmp/tmp8ja87A.html
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