[DeTomaso] Pantera futures

LS lashdeep at yahoo.com
Fri Nov 14 14:42:16 EST 2014 

"You might have the Bel Air convertible that are worth a pretty penny but the majority of nice 55 to 57 Chevy's are only worth 30 to 40 maybe 50 grand. Pro touring ones I've seen for over 100 grand."
I think any Pro Touring car that has had $200k spent on it should be worth $100k at auction. 

:)
The market and new buyers are realizing that the stock cars are very good or need only minor items. This is reflected in the prices we're now seeing.

We all should do what we want with our cars so don't let any trends or opinions hold you back!
LS 


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      From: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
 To: Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com> 
Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com> 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera futures
   
I agree with you Bill. One case in point is if you look at; as an example, 1955 to 1957 Chevy's, the ones that are going for the big dollars are the pro touring cars with LS motors, four wheel discs, cross braced frames, independent suspension, and Rack and Pinion steering, etc.

You might have the Bel Air convertible that are worth a pretty penny but the majority of nice 55 to 57 Chevy's are only worth 30 to 40 maybe 50 grand. Pro touring ones I've seen for over 100 grand.

I have a friend with a 356 Porsche and his car is going to be a 100 points show car at which point he will not be able to drive it anymore.

I have had several Harleys and not one of them was ever stock. :-)

I think the rarity of the Pantera no matter what you do to it is going to hold it's value.

Besides when the ring brothers printer is auctioned at Barrett Jackson will see what that thing goes for.

Just my opinion, but it's an interesting discussion.

Ed

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> On Nov 13, 2014, at 15:23, Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  There have been several threads recently about the rising prices of
>  Panteras, and several have talked about the values of the typical
>  "personalized" Pantera versus a completely stock Pantera.  I realize
>  that most of us right now would say that "It doesn't matter to me,
>  because it's mine and I like it however it is!"  But, at some point in
>  the future, if Pantera prices get in the mid to upper six figures, that
>  viewpoint will not be so prevalent.    -------------    As you
>  probably know the folks in other car marques value the original car
>  over one that has been changed, e.g., the Corvette folks!    --------
>      So, my point is that we should try to bend the thinking that an
>  original Pantera is not worth more than one that has been personalized
>  - or else we will be caught in that trap.  We have to present ourselves
>  as the Boys In Black:  Dude this is MY car! - the way the Harley boys
>  have.  There are very few stock Harleys.  Of course, there are a finite
>  number of Panteras, and an infinite number of Harleys.  ----Just my
>  two-cents!!    ---BILL Lewis
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   "You might have the Bel Air convertible that are worth a pretty penny
   but the majority of nice 55 to 57 Chevy's are only worth 30 to 40 maybe
   50 grand. Pro touring ones I've seen for over 100 grand."
   I think any Pro Touring car that has had $200k spent on it should be
   worth $100k at auction.
   :)
   The market and new buyers are realizing that the stock cars are very
   good or need only minor items. This is reflected in the prices we're
   now seeing.
   We all should do what we want with our cars so don't let any trends or
   opinions hold you back!
   LS

   central
   wines-spirits   est 1934
   625 e street nw
   washington, dc 20004
   [1]centralwines.com
   [2]facebook.com/CentralLiquors
   202-737-2800
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   From: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
   To: Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
   Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
   Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:15 PM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera futures
   I agree with you Bill. One case in point is if you look at; as an
   example, 1955 to 1957 Chevy's, the ones that are going for the big
   dollars are the pro touring cars with LS motors, four wheel discs,
   cross braced frames, independent suspension, and Rack and Pinion
   steering, etc.
   You might have the Bel Air convertible that are worth a pretty penny
   but the majority of nice 55 to 57 Chevy's are only worth 30 to 40 maybe
   50 grand. Pro touring ones I've seen for over 100 grand.
   I have a friend with a 356 Porsche and his car is going to be a 100
   points show car at which point he will not be able to drive it anymore.
   I have had several Harleys and not one of them was ever stock. :-)
   I think the rarity of the Pantera no matter what you do to it is going
   to hold it's value.
   Besides when the ring brothers printer is auctioned at Barrett Jackson
   will see what that thing goes for.
   Just my opinion, but it's an interesting discussion.
   Ed
   Sent from my iPad
   > On Nov 13, 2014, at 15:23, Bill Lewis <[3]lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
   wrote:
   >
   >  There have been several threads recently about the rising prices of
   >  Panteras, and several have talked about the values of the typical
   >  "personalized" Pantera versus a completely stock Pantera.  I realize
   >  that most of us right now would say that "It doesn't matter to me,
   >  because it's mine and I like it however it is!"  But, at some point
   in
   >  the future, if Pantera prices get in the mid to upper six figures,
   that
   >  viewpoint will not be so prevalent.    -------------    As you
   >  probably know the folks in other car marques value the original car
   >  over one that has been changed, e.g., the Corvette folks!
   --------
   >      So, my point is that we should try to bend the thinking that an
   >  original Pantera is not worth more than one that has been
   personalized
   >  - or else we will be caught in that trap.  We have to present
   ourselves
   >  as the Boys In Black:  Dude this is MY car! - the way the Harley
   boys
   >  have.  There are very few stock Harleys.  Of course, there are a
   finite
   >  number of Panteras, and an infinite number of Harleys.  ----Just my
   >  two-cents!!    ---BILL Lewis
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