[DeTomaso] Pantera futures
Boyd Casey
boyd411 at gmail.com
Sat Nov 15 17:02:42 EST 2014
I saw a rest Mod Nomad with an LS3 and all the other updates sell on Mecum
today for $150K. I think a stock Nomad could be had for between $40 and
$70K ( My research is tainted when the gas Monkeys bought the Nomad to
customize fir Mountain dew that seemed to be the price range they were
looking at. That being said any info presented on the Gas Monkey Fiasco has
around as much validity as Ouija boards , magic eight balls, and Tarot
cards!
Boyd
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:42 PM, LS via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> "You might have the Bel Air convertible that are worth a pretty penny
> but the majority of nice 55 to 57 Chevy's are only worth 30 to 40 maybe
> 50 grand. Pro touring ones I've seen for over 100 grand."
> I think any Pro Touring car that has had $200k spent on it should be
> worth $100k at auction.
> :)
> The market and new buyers are realizing that the stock cars are very
> good or need only minor items. This is reflected in the prices we're
> now seeing.
> We all should do what we want with our cars so don't let any trends or
> opinions hold you back!
> LS
>
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> From: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
> To: Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera futures
> I agree with you Bill. One case in point is if you look at; as an
> example, 1955 to 1957 Chevy's, the ones that are going for the big
> dollars are the pro touring cars with LS motors, four wheel discs,
> cross braced frames, independent suspension, and Rack and Pinion
> steering, etc.
> You might have the Bel Air convertible that are worth a pretty penny
> but the majority of nice 55 to 57 Chevy's are only worth 30 to 40 maybe
> 50 grand. Pro touring ones I've seen for over 100 grand.
> I have a friend with a 356 Porsche and his car is going to be a 100
> points show car at which point he will not be able to drive it anymore.
> I have had several Harleys and not one of them was ever stock. :-)
> I think the rarity of the Pantera no matter what you do to it is going
> to hold it's value.
> Besides when the ring brothers printer is auctioned at Barrett Jackson
> will see what that thing goes for.
> Just my opinion, but it's an interesting discussion.
> Ed
> Sent from my iPad
> > On Nov 13, 2014, at 15:23, Bill Lewis <[3]lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > There have been several threads recently about the rising prices of
> > Panteras, and several have talked about the values of the typical
> > "personalized" Pantera versus a completely stock Pantera. I realize
> > that most of us right now would say that "It doesn't matter to me,
> > because it's mine and I like it however it is!" But, at some point
> in
> > the future, if Pantera prices get in the mid to upper six figures,
> that
> > viewpoint will not be so prevalent. ------------- As you
> > probably know the folks in other car marques value the original car
> > over one that has been changed, e.g., the Corvette folks!
> --------
> > So, my point is that we should try to bend the thinking that an
> > original Pantera is not worth more than one that has been
> personalized
> > - or else we will be caught in that trap. We have to present
> ourselves
> > as the Boys In Black: Dude this is MY car! - the way the Harley
> boys
> > have. There are very few stock Harleys. Of course, there are a
> finite
> > number of Panteras, and an infinite number of Harleys. ----Just my
> > two-cents!! ---BILL Lewis
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I saw a rest Mod Nomad with an LS3 and all the other updates sell on
Mecum today for $150K. I think a stock NomadA could be had for between
$40 and $70KA A ( My research is tainted when the gas Monkeys bought
the Nomad to customize fir Mountain dew that seemed to be the price
range they were looking at. That being said any info presented on the
Gas Monkey Fiasco has around as much validityA as Ouija boards , magic
eight balls, and Tarot cards!
Boyd
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:42 PM, LS via DeTomaso <[1]detomaso at poca.com>
wrote:
A A "You might have the Bel Air convertible that are worth a pretty
penny
A A but the majority of nice 55 to 57 Chevy's are only worth 30 to
40 maybe
A A 50 grand. Pro touring ones I've seen for over 100 grand."
A A I think any Pro Touring car that has had $200k spent on it
should be
A A worth $100k at auction.
A A :)
A A The market and new buyers are realizing that the stock cars are
very
A A good or need only minor items. This is reflected in the prices
we're
A A now seeing.
A A We all should do what we want with our cars so don't let any
trends or
A A opinions hold you back!
A A LS
A A central
A A wines-spiritsA A est 1934
A A 625 e street nw
A A washington, dc 20004
A A [1][2]centralwines.com
A A [2][3]facebook.com/CentralLiquors
A A [4]202-737-2800
A A
A __________________________________________________________________
A A From: Ed Mendez <[5]edducati at mac.com>
A A To: Bill Lewis <[6]lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
A A Cc: "[7]detomaso at poca.com" <[8]detomaso at poca.com>
A A Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:15 PM
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera futures
A A I agree with you Bill. One case in point is if you look at; as
an
A A example, 1955 to 1957 Chevy's, the ones that are going for the
big
A A dollars are the pro touring cars with LS motors, four wheel
discs,
A A cross braced frames, independent suspension, and Rack and
Pinion
A A steering, etc.
A A You might have the Bel Air convertible that are worth a pretty
penny
A A but the majority of nice 55 to 57 Chevy's are only worth 30 to
40 maybe
A A 50 grand. Pro touring ones I've seen for over 100 grand.
A A I have a friend with a 356 Porsche and his car is going to be a
100
A A points show car at which point he will not be able to drive it
anymore.
A A I have had several Harleys and not one of them was ever stock.
:-)
A A I think the rarity of the Pantera no matter what you do to it
is going
A A to hold it's value.
A A Besides when the ring brothers printer is auctioned at Barrett
Jackson
A A will see what that thing goes for.
A A Just my opinion, but it's an interesting discussion.
A A Ed
A A Sent from my iPad
A A > On Nov 13, 2014, at 15:23, Bill Lewis
<[3][9]lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
A A wrote:
A A >
A A >A There have been several threads recently about the rising
prices of
A A >A Panteras, and several have talked about the values of the
typical
A A >A "personalized" Pantera versus a completely stock Pantera.A I
realize
A A >A that most of us right now would say that "It doesn't matter to
me,
A A >A because it's mine and I like it however it is!"A But, at some
point
A A in
A A >A the future, if Pantera prices get in the mid to upper six
figures,
A A that
A A >A viewpoint will not be so prevalent.A A -------------A A As
you
A A >A probably know the folks in other car marques value the
original car
A A >A over one that has been changed, e.g., the Corvette folks!
A A --------
A A >A A A So, my point is that we should try to bend the thinking
that an
A A >A original Pantera is not worth more than one that has been
A A personalized
A A >A - or else we will be caught in that trap.A We have to present
A A ourselves
A A >A as the Boys In Black:A Dude this is MY car! - the way the
Harley
A A boys
A A >A have.A There are very few stock Harleys.A Of course, there
are a
A A finite
A A >A number of Panteras, and an infinite number of Harleys.A
----Just my
A A >A two-cents!!A A ---BILL Lewis
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