[DeTomaso] New engine
Arjun Ghosh-Dastidar
arjun.ghoshdastidar at gmail.com
Fri Dec 5 20:23:24 EST 2014
Robert,
I use Precision Proformance 180s on my Roush Yates C3 heads. Ron McCall
builds 180s that fit on C3 and D3 heads. When I bought my 180s, Ron didn't
build his 180s, but if I was buying a set today I'd buy Ron's 180s since
they're the only ones on the market that can be removed for regular
maintenance work in the engine bay without having to unbolt them from the
cylinder heads (major pain to do with all 180s).
Regards,
Arjun
On Dec 5, 2014 8:17 PM, "Robert Stroj" <npdrs at maui.net> wrote:
> It is 416, 4.125 bore, 3.9 stroke.
>
>
>
> From: Boyd Casey [mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 2:56 PM
> To: Robert Stroj
> Cc: richard boschert; detomaso mail list
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New engine
>
>
> Robert,
>
> How many cubic inches is your engine?
>
> Boyd
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Robert Stroj <[1]npdrs at maui.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Richard,
> could you please let me know what 180 exhaust did you install?
> What engine (deck height) and heads combination do you have?
> A photo would be great!
> If I find a 180 system that bolts straight to my 9.2 deck with Yates C3
> heads I might consider going that route.
> Thanks, Robert
> -----Original Message-----
> From: richard boschert [mailto:[2]theemonkey at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 1:57 PM
> To: detomaso mail list
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New engine
>
> "Rich Boschert had ANSA-sized Flowmaster mufflers, but they were
> brutally
> loud--they almost seemed like amplifiers rather than mufflers! And
> they
> looked terrible too."
> Hey,i do not think they were ugly ,(attached a pic if it goes thru),but
> yes
> they were LOUD : )
> The Ansa mufflers and tips are by far the best looking muffler,but have
> horrible flow.
> I had Cherry Bomb Extreme mufflers with non baffled tips.Essentially
> the are
> a hollow can with one angled metal plate .They flowed well,and had a
> deep
> exhaust note.Less drone at low rpm than the stock Ansa's as well.The
> problem
> with the stock Pantera muffler location is you have to use a short
> length
> muffler,which makes it difficult to have decent exhaust flow and sound
> canceling ability.Also a more powerful engine will be louder than a
> stock
> engine with the same mufflers.
> ">Other option, should I replace everything with 180 degree system; how
> > much
> > power is it really worth?
> >
> >>>What you get is style and a different sound. You'll never notice a
> performance difference, and you will pick up weight plus enormous
> complexity
> and hamper maintenance access."
> On my car, i just installed 180's with 4 inch Magnaflow mufflers,and it
> made
> a significant increase in power over my already decent flowing loud
> exhaust.In fact the car revs so quick i am seriously thinking of
> changing my
> final drive gear ratio to 3.73, when i change the 5th gear in the ZF.
> With the 180 exhaust you have a lot more options on mufflers that can
> reduce
> noise but still have good flow,because you are no longer as limited by
> muffler body length.You lose your trunk storage,but is it something you
> really need?If you drop the battery in the front you can gain some more
> storage up front.I started to convert a trunk that was in really bad
> shape
> to go around my 180's,but it has been on the back burner since i have
> been
> able to get by without it so far.
> By the way,the 180's sound GLORIOUS!
> Richard
>
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Robert,
I use Precision Proformance 180s on my Roush Yates C3 heads. Ron McCall
builds 180s that fit on C3 and D3 heads. When I bought my 180s, Ron
didn't build his 180s, but if I was buying a set today I'd buy Ron's
180s since they're the only ones on the market that can be removed for
regular maintenance work in the engine bay without having to unbolt
them from the cylinder heads (major pain to do with all 180s).
Regards,
Arjun
On Dec 5, 2014 8:17 PM, "Robert Stroj" <[1]npdrs at maui.net> wrote:
A A It is 416, 4.125 bore, 3.9 stroke.
A A From: Boyd Casey [mailto:[2]boyd411 at gmail.com]
A A Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 2:56 PM
A A To: Robert Stroj
A A Cc: richard boschert; detomaso mail list
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New engine
A A Robert,
A A How many cubic inches is your engine?
A A Boyd
A A On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Robert Stroj
<[1][3]npdrs at maui.net> wrote:
A A Hi Richard,
A A could you please let me know what 180 exhaust did you install?
A A What engine (deck height) and heads combination do you have?
A A A photo would be great!
A A If I find a 180 system that bolts straight to my 9.2 deck with
Yates C3
A A heads I might consider going that route.
A A Thanks, Robert
A A -----Original Message-----
A A From: richard boschert [mailto:[2][4]theemonkey at yahoo.com]
A A Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 1:57 PM
A A To: detomaso mail list
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New engine
A A "Rich Boschert had ANSA-sized Flowmaster mufflers, but they
were
A A brutally
A A loud--they almost seemed like amplifiers rather than
mufflers!A A And
A A they
A A looked terrible too."
A A Hey,i do not think they were ugly ,(attached a pic if it goes
thru),but
A A yes
A A they were LOUDA : )
A A The Ansa mufflers and tips are by far the best looking
muffler,but have
A A horrible flow.
A A I had Cherry Bomb Extreme mufflers with non baffled
tips.Essentially
A A the are
A A a hollow can with one angled metal plate .They flowed well,and
had a
A A deep
A A exhaust note.Less drone at low rpm than the stock Ansa's as
well.The
A A problem
A A with the stock Pantera muffler location is you have to use a
short
A A length
A A muffler,which makes it difficult to have decent exhaust flow
and sound
A A canceling ability.Also a more powerful engine will be louder
than a
A A stock
A A engine with the same mufflers.
A A ">Other option, should I replace everything with 180 degree
system; how
A A > much
A A > power is it really worth?
A A >
A A >>>What you get is style and a different sound.A A You'll
never notice a
A A performance difference, and you will pick up weight plus
enormous
A A complexity
A A and hamper maintenance access."
A A On my car, i just installed 180's with 4 inch Magnaflow
mufflers,and it
A A made
A A a significant increase in power over my already decent flowing
loud
A A exhaust.In fact the car revs so quick i am seriously thinking
of
A A changing my
A A final drive gear ratio to 3.73, when i change the 5th gear in
the ZF.
A A With the 180 exhaust you have a lot more options on mufflers
that can
A A reduce
A A noise but still have good flow,because you are no longer as
limited by
A A muffler body length.You lose your trunk storage,but is it
something you
A A really need?If you drop the battery in the front you can gain
some more
A A storage up front.I started to convert a trunk that was in
really bad
A A shape
A A to go around my 180's,but it has been on the back burner since
i have
A A been
A A able to get by without it so far.
A A By the way,the 180's sound GLORIOUS!
A A Richard
A A _______________________________________________
A A Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
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A A 2. mailto:[8]theemonkey at yahoo.com
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8. mailto:theemonkey at yahoo.com
9. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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