[DeTomaso] New engine

[Robert Stroj]

It is 416, 4.125 bore, 3.9 stroke.

 

 

From: Boyd Casey [mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 2:56 PM
To: Robert Stroj
Cc: richard boschert; detomaso mail list
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New engine

 

Robert,

How many cubic inches is your engine?

Boyd

 

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Robert Stroj <npdrs at maui.net> wrote:

Hi Richard,

could you please let me know what 180 exhaust did you install?
What engine (deck height) and heads combination do you have?
A photo would be great!

If I find a 180 system that bolts straight to my 9.2 deck with Yates C3
heads I might consider going that route.

Thanks, Robert

-----Original Message-----
From: richard boschert [mailto:theemonkey at yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 1:57 PM
To: detomaso mail list
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New engine

"Rich Boschert had ANSA-sized Flowmaster mufflers, but they were brutally
loud--they almost seemed like amplifiers rather than mufflers!   And they
looked terrible too."

Hey,i do not think they were ugly ,(attached a pic if it goes thru),but yes
they were LOUD  : )

The Ansa mufflers and tips are by far the best looking muffler,but have
horrible flow.

I had Cherry Bomb Extreme mufflers with non baffled tips.Essentially the are
a hollow can with one angled metal plate .They flowed well,and had a deep
exhaust note.Less drone at low rpm than the stock Ansa's as well.The problem
with the stock Pantera muffler location is you have to use a short length
muffler,which makes it difficult to have decent exhaust flow and sound
canceling ability.Also a more powerful engine will be louder than a stock
engine with the same mufflers.

">Other option, should I replace everything with 180 degree system; how
> much
> power is it really worth?
>
>>>What you get is style and a different sound.   You'll never notice a
performance difference, and you will pick up weight plus enormous complexity
and hamper maintenance access."

On my car, i just installed 180's with 4 inch Magnaflow mufflers,and it made
a significant increase in power over my already decent flowing loud
exhaust.In fact the car revs so quick i am seriously thinking of changing my
final drive gear ratio to 3.73, when i change the 5th gear in the ZF.

With the 180 exhaust you have a lot more options on mufflers that can reduce
noise but still have good flow,because you are no longer as limited by
muffler body length.You lose your trunk storage,but is it something you
really need?If you drop the battery in the front you can gain some more
storage up front.I started to convert a trunk that was in really bad shape
to go around my 180's,but it has been on the back burner since i have been
able to get by without it so far.

By the way,the 180's sound GLORIOUS!

Richard



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   It is 416, 4.125 bore, 3.9 stroke.



   From: Boyd Casey [mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com]
   Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 2:56 PM
   To: Robert Stroj
   Cc: richard boschert; detomaso mail list
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New engine


   Robert,

   How many cubic inches is your engine?

   Boyd


   On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Robert Stroj <[1]npdrs at maui.net> wrote:

   Hi Richard,
   could you please let me know what 180 exhaust did you install?
   What engine (deck height) and heads combination do you have?
   A photo would be great!
   If I find a 180 system that bolts straight to my 9.2 deck with Yates C3
   heads I might consider going that route.
   Thanks, Robert
   -----Original Message-----
   From: richard boschert [mailto:[2]theemonkey at yahoo.com]
   Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 1:57 PM
   To: detomaso mail list
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New engine

   "Rich Boschert had ANSA-sized Flowmaster mufflers, but they were
   brutally
   loud--they almost seemed like amplifiers rather than mufflers!   And
   they
   looked terrible too."
   Hey,i do not think they were ugly ,(attached a pic if it goes thru),but
   yes
   they were LOUD  : )
   The Ansa mufflers and tips are by far the best looking muffler,but have
   horrible flow.
   I had Cherry Bomb Extreme mufflers with non baffled tips.Essentially
   the are
   a hollow can with one angled metal plate .They flowed well,and had a
   deep
   exhaust note.Less drone at low rpm than the stock Ansa's as well.The
   problem
   with the stock Pantera muffler location is you have to use a short
   length
   muffler,which makes it difficult to have decent exhaust flow and sound
   canceling ability.Also a more powerful engine will be louder than a
   stock
   engine with the same mufflers.
   ">Other option, should I replace everything with 180 degree system; how
   > much
   > power is it really worth?
   >
   >>>What you get is style and a different sound.   You'll never notice a
   performance difference, and you will pick up weight plus enormous
   complexity
   and hamper maintenance access."
   On my car, i just installed 180's with 4 inch Magnaflow mufflers,and it
   made
   a significant increase in power over my already decent flowing loud
   exhaust.In fact the car revs so quick i am seriously thinking of
   changing my
   final drive gear ratio to 3.73, when i change the 5th gear in the ZF.
   With the 180 exhaust you have a lot more options on mufflers that can
   reduce
   noise but still have good flow,because you are no longer as limited by
   muffler body length.You lose your trunk storage,but is it something you
   really need?If you drop the battery in the front you can gain some more
   storage up front.I started to convert a trunk that was in really bad
   shape
   to go around my 180's,but it has been on the back burner since i have
   been
   able to get by without it so far.
   By the way,the 180's sound GLORIOUS!
   Richard

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