[DeTomaso] NPC - jump starting a car

[Boyd Casey]

It's amazing that your "cheap" battery lasted "4or 5 " years, my last
Optima $300 + only lasted 3 years!
Boyd

On Wednesday, August 28, 2013, Jeff Cobb wrote:

> Charles,
>
> >  I assumed that even with a battery that has reached the end of its
> useful life, connecting a good battery would always allow you to start the
> car, at least that time.
>
> Not true as dead is dead.
> This is not like a Frankenstein movie.
> But now you can say, "He is alive!".
>
> Jeff Cobb
>
> On Aug 28, 2013, at 5:04 AM, Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the replies all. Just to confirm, Jeff, this battery was
> treated poorly. The car would sit for 6 months without starting it once
> (literally), I'd completely charge the battery and it would sit for another
> 4 months before being started again. It isn't that old - perhaps 4-5 years,
> but in 4-5 years the car was literally used 4-5 times. The battery
> discharged significantly before each use. It was the cheapest battery
> available at the time of purchase (based on the use the car had)
> >
> > I bought a new battery and the car starts as advertised, so the battery
> did effectively die. This was not surprising, but what was surprising was
> that I couldn't jump start the car... I assumed that even with a battery
> that has reached the end of its useful life, connecting a good battery
> would always allow you to start the car, at least that time.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Jeff Cobb <jeffcobb1 at me.com> wrote:
> > Charles,
> >
> > Treating a battery well does not mean that it will not die.
> > You can't jump start it because it has sulfated or has an internal open
> which has caused too much resistance for proper volts to flow.
> > Jump starting a bad battery does not make a bad battery good.
> > You have a bad battery.
> >
> > Jeff Cobb
> >
> > On Aug 26, 2013, at 7:22 AM, Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Michael, I don't discount your statement - the battery has not been
> treated
> > > well and may be at the end of its life. By why couldn't I jump start
> it?
> >
> > > On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 1:22 PM, michael at michaelshortt.com <
> > > michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> My money says the battery is shot.
> > >>
> > >> Michael
> > >>
> > >> Just went through this with moho, similar symptoms and new batts (3)
> > >> fixed all.
> > >> On Aug 26, 2013 6:31 AM, "Charles McCall" <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi all
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> The car in question hadn't been started in literally 3 months. I
> went to
> > >>> start it on Thursday and the battery was discharged. I hooked a
> trickle
> > >>> charger up to it overnight, and Friday morning the car started just
> fine.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I drove the car during the day, had no trouble starting it on the 4-5
> > >>> occasions I had to start it.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Today, Sunday, two days later the car wouldn't start again (I was
> going to
> > >>> move it to hook the trickle charger up to it and let it charge for a
> week
> > >>> or
> > >>> however long it takes to completely charge). I got some jumper
> cables and
> > >>> am
> > >>> trying to start the car but it won't turn over.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> When I turn the key, the interior light goes out which indicates to
> me
> > >>> that
> > >>> the battery is discharged. I hooked up the jumper cables and the car
> still
> > >>> won't turn over (and the interior light goes out).
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> If I turn the headlights on on the car with the dead battery, I can
> see
> > >>> that
> > >>> the lights get noticeably brighter when connecting the jumper cables
> so I
> > >>> have to believe that current is reaching the battery. What can
> possibly be
> > >>> the problem?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> If the connection weren't good, then the headlights wouldn't get
> brighter.
> > >>> But on the other hand, if the connection were good then the interior
> light
> > >>> wouldn't go out when I try engaging the starter, right?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
>