[DeTomaso] Pantera headers and mufflers - Another source

[Thomas Tornblom]

2013-05-30 15:57, Andy May skrev:
> Mine has the standard headers that came with a european GT5S; 5/8 primaries
> in to 3" collectors. It also came with the GR3 ANSA mufflers which has an
> internal perforated Y pipe to the tail tubes and provides very little
> effective muffling. Its pretty loud and probably about as loud as I could
> get away with on UK roads without getting pulled over all the time.
> However, once you roll the windows up the noise is not uncomfortable for
> occupants at legal cruising speeds; though normal conversation takes some
> work.
>
> Perhaps the most interesting thing is mine has never suffered from the
> 2000-2500rpm drone that many report on other panteras. My thought is that
> it may have something to do with the different firing order of the Windsor
> engine to that of the Cleveland? Can anyone comment that may have
> experience of Windsor/Cleveland swaps in the same car?

351W has the same firing order as 351C, unless you have a cam for a 302. 
302W had a different firing order, but the 5.0 HO has the 351C firing order.

>
> Andy

Thomas

> On May 30, 2013 2:07 PM, "Robert Pink" <robpink2012 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Since we are talking about muffler systems I have the new Wilkinson system
>> on my car. I had it jet hot treated. In many ways I am happy with them. It
>> fits perfectly and is easy to install. The lack of the need for gaskets is
>> great. However a couple of issues. First it much louder than I had hoped.
>> It is the loudest car in the Space City Panteras group  if I don't count
>> cars with 180s or race cars. Second and more of a problem is a very
>> pronounced resonance between 2000 and 2500 RPM making it very unpleasant to
>> drive at these engine speeds . I have taken to picking gears that keep me
>> above or below this RPM range.
>> Has anyone noticed these issues?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, May 30, 2013, Andy May wrote:
>>
>>> The system shown is for the Windsor motor application, though it seems to
>>> just represent an example of previous bespoke  work completed.
>>>
>>> My guess would be that they dont keep patterns to replicate for order.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>> On May 30, 2013 6:05 AM, "Garth Rodericks" <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Agreed.  Just stumbled upon this set and wondered if anyone knew
>>> anything
>>>> about them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>>   From: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
>>>> To: 'Garth Rodericks' <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>; 'DeTomaso Mail
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Looks decent, but one huge advantage of the system Steve Wilkinson is
>>>> selling is the ball flange mate between the header and pipe - allows for
>>>> infinite adjustment before you tighten it down.
>>>>
>>>> Mike Thomas
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Garth Rodericks
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 12:10 PM
>>>> To: DeTomaso Mail List; Mike Drew
>>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera headers and mufflers - Another source
>>>>
>>>> Stumbled upon Nouvalari, which advertises a Pantera exhaust system.
>>>> http://www.nouvalari.com/exhausts_catalogue.php?page=3
>>>>
>>>> Anyone familiar with this system?  Just curious.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>> Garth
>>>> #4033
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