[DeTomaso] Pantera headers and mufflers - Another source

[Andy May]

That theory is not going to work then - sorry, I thought they were
different.
On May 30, 2013 3:08 PM, "Thomas Tornblom" <thomas at hax.se> wrote:

> 2013-05-30 15:57, Andy May skrev:
> > Mine has the standard headers that came with a european GT5S; 5/8
> primaries
> > in to 3" collectors. It also came with the GR3 ANSA mufflers which has an
> > internal perforated Y pipe to the tail tubes and provides very little
> > effective muffling. Its pretty loud and probably about as loud as I could
> > get away with on UK roads without getting pulled over all the time.
> > However, once you roll the windows up the noise is not uncomfortable for
> > occupants at legal cruising speeds; though normal conversation takes some
> > work.
> >
> > Perhaps the most interesting thing is mine has never suffered from the
> > 2000-2500rpm drone that many report on other panteras. My thought is that
> > it may have something to do with the different firing order of the
> Windsor
> > engine to that of the Cleveland? Can anyone comment that may have
> > experience of Windsor/Cleveland swaps in the same car?
>
> 351W has the same firing order as 351C, unless you have a cam for a 302.
> 302W had a different firing order, but the 5.0 HO has the 351C firing
> order.
>
> >
> > Andy
>
> Thomas
>
> > On May 30, 2013 2:07 PM, "Robert Pink" <robpink2012 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Since we are talking about muffler systems I have the new Wilkinson
> system
> >> on my car. I had it jet hot treated. In many ways I am happy with them.
> It
> >> fits perfectly and is easy to install. The lack of the need for gaskets
> is
> >> great. However a couple of issues. First it much louder than I had
> hoped.
> >> It is the loudest car in the Space City Panteras group  if I don't count
> >> cars with 180s or race cars. Second and more of a problem is a very
> >> pronounced resonance between 2000 and 2500 RPM making it very
> unpleasant to
> >> drive at these engine speeds . I have taken to picking gears that keep
> me
> >> above or below this RPM range.
> >> Has anyone noticed these issues?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thursday, May 30, 2013, Andy May wrote:
> >>
> >>> The system shown is for the Windsor motor application, though it seems
> to
> >>> just represent an example of previous bespoke  work completed.
> >>>
> >>> My guess would be that they dont keep patterns to replicate for order.
> >>>
> >>> Andy
> >>> On May 30, 2013 6:05 AM, "Garth Rodericks" <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Agreed.  Just stumbled upon this set and wondered if anyone knew
> >>> anything
> >>>> about them.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ________________________________
> >>>>   From: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> >>>> To: 'Garth Rodericks' <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>; 'DeTomaso Mail
> >>> List' <
> >>>> detomaso at poca.com>; 'Mike Drew' <mikeldrew at aol.com>
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 6:32 PM
> >>>> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Pantera headers and mufflers - Another source
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Looks decent, but one huge advantage of the system Steve Wilkinson is
> >>>> selling is the ball flange mate between the header and pipe - allows
> for
> >>>> infinite adjustment before you tighten it down.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike Thomas
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
> >>>> Behalf
> >>>> Of Garth Rodericks
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 12:10 PM
> >>>> To: DeTomaso Mail List; Mike Drew
> >>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera headers and mufflers - Another source
> >>>>
> >>>> Stumbled upon Nouvalari, which advertises a Pantera exhaust system.
> >>>> http://www.nouvalari.com/exhausts_catalogue.php?page=3
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyone familiar with this system?  Just curious.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers!
> >>>> Garth
> >>>> #4033
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