[DeTomaso] What Do You Tell People - It is a DeTomaso

Thu Mar 14 19:56:50 EDT 2013

I don't say it is a Pantera and leave it at that.

I don't call it a DeTomaso or Ford, either.

I say it is a DeTomaso Pantera, and I explain the relationship with Ford.

I don't see any problem with calling it a Pantera.  It doesn't get its
value from the name DeTomaso.  Maybe it would if DeTomaso were a household
name like Ferrari, Lamborghini, Maserati, or Porsche.

And, I can't say that DeTomaso would be a household name if Pantera owners
called them DeTomasos instead of Panteras.

As much as I like Fords and the relationship between Ford and Panteras, I
don't call them Fords either.  I call them DeTomaso Panteras.

You can call them whatever you want.  I really don't care.  I just want my
car back on the road.

--
Will

On 3/14/13 7:45 PM, "LS" <lashdeep at yahoo.com> wrote:

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>Is a Lamborghini Diablo considered a Chrysler?
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>Is the Maserati Bora a Detomaso Bora?
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>Calling it a Ford is not correct.
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>Funding a factory does not mean you have produced a car. And what about
>the cars made after said factory was shutdown?
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>LS
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> From: "shawkins777 at comcast.net" <shawkins777 at comcast.net>
>To: 
>Cc: detomaso at poca.com
>Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:22 PM
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What Do You Tell People - It is a DeTomaso
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>Well referring to it as a Ford could be considered correct since Ford
>owned the manufacturing facility.
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>Steve 
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "The Goyaniuks" <andriykoisg at yahoo.ca>
>To: detomaso at poca.com
>Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:08:59 AM
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What Do You Tell People - It is a DeTomaso
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>What I believe our marque suffers from is the way WE talk about our cars.
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>When the anyone sees a Ferrari they USUALLY do not say "Oh look there
>goes a 355!". The same goes for Jaguar, BMW, Mercedes, Maserati,
>Lamborghini, et al.
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>BUT for most (not all) we sell ourselves as PANTERA owners. So, then
>people say, "It is a Pantera" What is that? Well, most people of age, in
>North America think it is a Ford because it was sold at L-M dealers.
>Europeans and others know it as a DeTomaso. Which links very much to what
>was discussed on the Ferrarichat forum. It was not that the DeTomaso cars
>were that much different in N.A. than Europe, (eg. N.A. Bora, 308, 328,
>Mercedes et al were also different in N.A. in their day as well), it is
>that they were sold at Ford dealers and people perceived them as linked
>to Ford. Whereas, as I say, everywhere else in the world they were seen
>as DeTomaso's. Hence the cars command higher prices everywhere else but
>in N.A. 
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>So, my simple answer to what to tell people is - It is a DeTomaso, just
>like a Mangusta, Vallelunga, Longchamp, ...etc. When we start referring
>to our cars as DeTomaso's first and the model second, it may start to put
>the record straight. i.e. just like Ferrari, BMW, Jaguar, Aston-Martin,
>... we talk about the marque first then the model - no confusion.
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>Bohdan G. 
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>P.S. This has been a pet bitch of mine since I bought my car in 1990 - WE
>are the worst to blame - As long as we are not clear on what marque we
>have 
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>--- On Thu, 3/14/13, Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com> wrote:
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>From: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What Do You Tell People??
>To: lashdeep at yahoo.com, detomaso at poca.com
>Received: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 1:31 AM
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>I say "It's an international car-- it was made in Italy using a German ZF
>transaxle and American Ford Engine"
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com>
>To: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
>Sent: Wed, Mar 13, 2013 5:56 pm
>Subject: [DeTomaso] What Do You Tell People??
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>This is related to some recent discussion on another exotic car forum.
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>The topic was the history,heritage, and perception of Detomaso cars.
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>One interesting subject brought up was the level of knowledge of Detomaso
>owners 
>and how/if any of that was being shared with spectators or onlookers.
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>Case in point...I pulled into a local weekend Cars and Coffee. As some
>people 
>looked at the car, one commented with something to the effect of
>..."cool, it's 
>an American Countach..."
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>It just so happened that I had known this person for many years and
>because of 
>that I gave him a 30 minute lecture.
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>Although I am *FAR* from an expert on any car history, I took the
>opportunity to 
>explain the background of the company and the car.
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>This conversation triggered more discussion with other people in the
>crowd who 
>had no idea and thought it was something it clearly wasn't.
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>I've also recently met Detomaso owners who do not know much about their
>car. 
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>Everyone enjoys their car in different ways. Maybe some don't really care
>what 
>it is or who made it.
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>I accept that. My dad had a car that he drove three times in 15 yrs yet
>told me 
>he enjoyed just looking at it.
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>Out of pure curiosity...when someone walks up and looks at your Pantera
>with a 
>comment similar to "cool, it's an American Countach..."
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>What do you respond with?
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>LS 
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>________________________________
>From: Tom Shinrock <tmshinro at aol.com>
>To: detomaso at poca.com
>Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 12:44 PM
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera Appearance in Hunter TV Series
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>I found all the Hunters episodes are on Hulu.com. There are seven seasons
>of 
>episodes, so it's a matter of finding the right one. I took an educated
>guess 
>and am watching episode 7 from season 2 based on the IMCD database
>showing 
>episode 2.07. It's a two part episode and I'm halfway through the first
>one. 
>Nothing yet. 
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>If anyone can zero in on the correct episode, the whole clip can be seen.
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>Tom 
>5186 
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com>
>To: LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com>; Detomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
>Sent: Wed, Feb 27, 2013 11:03 am
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera Appearance in Hunter TV Series
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>Not one hidden Youtube clip of the white GT5 on Hunter anywhere??
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>________________________________
>From: LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com>
>To: Detomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
>Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 9:52 PM
>Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera Appearance in Hunter TV Series
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>Anyone find this online anywhere?
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>http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_315135-De-Tomaso-Pantera-GT5.html
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>I would love to see the full clip.
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>LS 
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