[DeTomaso] Puzzle for the gear heads

Sean Korb spkorb at gmail.com
Sun Mar 10 20:15:05 EDT 2013 

I know what I want for xmas...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJLKT-hYyOM


On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Sean Korb <spkorb at gmail.com> wrote:
> Nice!  Many of the Spyder kit manufacturers have the parts needed to
> put a Subbie motor in there.  That's in 10 second territory.
> Blindingly quick!
>
> sean
>
> On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
>> No - a Beck Spyder
>> http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0209_2002_beck_spyder/viewal
>> l.html
>>
>> But 0-100 in 10.4 secs?  No way with a VW engine.
>>
>> How about an older 911?  I would say 911 Turbo (930) but I didn't hear a
>> whine.
>>
>> --
>> Will
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/10/13 7:57 PM, "Sean Korb" <spkorb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Factory Five 818?
>>>
>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dw7BBZAU6M
>>>
>>>On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 6:57 PM, David Fisher <fisher95020 at gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>> Ok. You guys are getting fairly close.  Here's the last clue which
>>>>ought to
>>>> get us to the finish line
>>>>
>>>> Its a boxer motor,  between 2 and 3 litres.
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 10, 2013 3:41 PM, "Sean Korb" <spkorb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Wow, really reaching here...
>>>>>
>>>>> A Dwarf car with an R1 Yamaha motor?  That's *really* small
>>>>> displacement though and 100MPH is like 15 seconds.  Hmmm. A turbo
>>>>> 'busa motor would get it there pretty quickly.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm going for Lotus 7 kit with a turbo 'busa motor.
>>>>>
>>>>> sean
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 3:36 PM, David Fisher <fisher95020 at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > Ahh... you guys are a creative bunch!  Jeff has uncovered a few clues
>>>>> > that
>>>>> > are getting closer.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > First,  The driver is worried about shifting... partially because I
>>>>>have
>>>>> > always been a "shift slow and mash the pedal guy", but partially
>>>>>because
>>>>> > shifting is not very direct in this car.   I will let you take that
>>>>>clue
>>>>> > from there.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > You are also correct that there is very little brake dive,     Given
>>>>> > that
>>>>> > most folks are narrowing in on a smaller displacement engine and I
>>>>>gave
>>>>> > away the 0-100 time  (in Z06 territory) you know this has to be
>>>>>light.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thats all I am saying for now.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Jeff Cobb <jeffcobb1 at me.com> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> I will go further out on a limb.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> This unknown car slowly traverses low amplitude train tracks, yet
>>>>>you
>>>>> >> can
>>>>> >> hear the broken/loose shock top mounts allowing much vertical
>>>>>movement
>>>>> >> so
>>>>> >> it will be a light weight car with antiquated suspension. Yet the
>>>>>heavy
>>>>> >> clunks would indicate the  top suspension parts are loose in a
>>>>>subframe
>>>>> >> or
>>>>> >> the lowers on the axle mounts, not a body.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> The driver does not feel good about truly getting on the power, as
>>>>> >> shown
>>>>> >> by the "I am worried about breaking something or  this car is hard
>>>>>to
>>>>> >> shift
>>>>> >> so I will short shift first gear", so we have a breaker and must be
>>>>> >> careful. So I guess 1966 to 1977.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> At second 7 the quick engine rev up indicates vacuum/sliding piston
>>>>> >> carbs
>>>>> >> or a 450 +- cfm 2 barrel.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Long times between shifts indicate a cast iron four speed and a long
>>>>> >> throw
>>>>> >> or weak clutch pedal function.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Low amount of rear body dive/dip rules out the TR-6.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> At second 15, the dramatic on/off sounds are so English or Ford.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> The exhaust sound of second 14 to 21 wfo indicates whooshing of
>>>>>maybe
>>>>> >> two
>>>>> >> small diameter exhaust pipes with weak/blownout mufflers yet a large
>>>>> >> enough
>>>>> >> engine because of the throat noise, fine acceleration and no exhaust
>>>>> >> smoke.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> The slowing down shows low brake dive and again no down shifting
>>>>>would
>>>>> >> indicate that shifting difficulty again.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> So I guess a Mustang 289, TVR, modified TR-8 or Jenson V8.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Extra pickles, please.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Jeff Cobb
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> At second 14
>>>>> >> On Mar 9, 2013, at 11:17 PM, David Fisher <fisher95020 at gmail.com>
>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> > Here's a clue.   This is a new toy to me - so you can eliminate
>>>>>the
>>>>> >> > Jag E
>>>>> >> > type from the equation.   I like Jeff's analysis of the clatter
>>>>>over
>>>>> >> > the
>>>>> >> > railroad tracks.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 6:46 PM, michael at michaelshortt.com <
>>>>> >> > michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >>> 10 pts for # of cylinders    6
>>>>> >> >>> 20 pts of displacement (within 500cc)    2.5 lier
>>>>> >> >>> 10 pts for engines home country            England
>>>>> >> >>> 10 pts for guessing 0-100 mph (within 1/4 sec)       15
>>>>> >> >>> 30 pts for telling me what car it is           Triumph TR-6 with
>>>>> >> Webers.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Michael Shortt
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >>> Sounds like the venerable Jaguar straight 6. I can't tell if
>>>>>its a
>>>>> >> >>> 3.8
>>>>> >> or
>>>>> >> >>> 4.2 so I will guess 4.0 and cover all my bases. Of course it's
>>>>> >> >>> British.
>>>>> >> >>> It's unlikely to be in a mk II or a D type so I am going to
>>>>>guess E
>>>>> >> type.
>>>>> >> >>> Lets say 14 sex quarter mile.
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> >>> How did I do?
>>>>> >> >>> Mike
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> >>> On Mar 9, 2013, at 19:45, David Fisher <fisher95020 at gmail.com>
>>>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> >>>> I figure this might be a bit of fun for the weekend.  Let's see
>>>>> >> >>>> who
>>>>> >> can
>>>>> >> >>> get
>>>>> >> >>>> the highest score on this puzzle.   I was doing some fuel
>>>>>mapping
>>>>> >> >>>> on a
>>>>> >> >>> toy
>>>>> >> >>>> last weekend.
>>>>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >> >>>> Take a listen to the video and tell me what it is.
>>>>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >> >>>> http://youtu.be/WN1GevRwtKk
>>>>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >> >>>> 10 pts for # of cylinders
>>>>> >> >>>> 20 pts of displacement (within 500cc)
>>>>> >> >>>> 10 pts for engines home country
>>>>> >> >>>> 10 pts for guessing 0-100 mph (within 1/4 sec)
>>>>> >> >>>> 30 pts for telling me what car it is
>>>>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >> >>>> Total of 70 pts.  I'll by a burger for the winner. :-)
>>>>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >> >>>> David
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>>>>> >> >> --
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Michael L. Shortt
>>>>> >> >> Savannah, Georgia
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>>>>> Sean Korb spkorb at spkorb.org http://www.spkorb.org
>>>>> '65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera
>>>>>#1382
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>>>Sean Korb spkorb at spkorb.org http://www.spkorb.org
>>>'65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera #1382
>>>"The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
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> Sean Korb spkorb at spkorb.org http://www.spkorb.org
> '65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera #1382
> "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
> "Computers are useless.  They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso



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Sean Korb spkorb at spkorb.org http://www.spkorb.org
'65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera #1382
"The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
"Computers are useless.  They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso

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