[DeTomaso] Puzzle for the gear heads
David Fisher
fisher95020 at gmail.com
Sun Mar 10 20:56:13 EDT 2013
You guys are good!
Here's the answer
http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=39081
Technically Will and Sean together got it right, but I think big credit
goes to all the contributors who narrowed it down for you. I especially
like Jeff's detective work.
She goes like a scalded cat in the straights, but watch out for the corners
- swing axle rear and trailing arm fronts make every corner a negotiation.
Still, there is something to be said for 1500 lbs and open air.
Now, where to send the burgers?!
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Sean Korb <spkorb at gmail.com> wrote:
> I know what I want for xmas...
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJLKT-hYyOM
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Sean Korb <spkorb at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Nice! Many of the Spyder kit manufacturers have the parts needed to
> > put a Subbie motor in there. That's in 10 second territory.
> > Blindingly quick!
> >
> > sean
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> No - a Beck Spyder
> >>
> http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0209_2002_beck_spyder/viewal
> >> l.html
> >>
> >> But 0-100 in 10.4 secs? No way with a VW engine.
> >>
> >> How about an older 911? I would say 911 Turbo (930) but I didn't hear a
> >> whine.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Will
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3/10/13 7:57 PM, "Sean Korb" <spkorb at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Factory Five 818?
> >>>
> >>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dw7BBZAU6M
> >>>
> >>>On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 6:57 PM, David Fisher <fisher95020 at gmail.com>
> >>>wrote:
> >>>> Ok. You guys are getting fairly close. Here's the last clue which
> >>>>ought to
> >>>> get us to the finish line
> >>>>
> >>>> Its a boxer motor, between 2 and 3 litres.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mar 10, 2013 3:41 PM, "Sean Korb" <spkorb at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Wow, really reaching here...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A Dwarf car with an R1 Yamaha motor? That's *really* small
> >>>>> displacement though and 100MPH is like 15 seconds. Hmmm. A turbo
> >>>>> 'busa motor would get it there pretty quickly.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm going for Lotus 7 kit with a turbo 'busa motor.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> sean
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 3:36 PM, David Fisher <fisher95020 at gmail.com
> >
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>> > Ahh... you guys are a creative bunch! Jeff has uncovered a few
> clues
> >>>>> > that
> >>>>> > are getting closer.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > First, The driver is worried about shifting... partially because I
> >>>>>have
> >>>>> > always been a "shift slow and mash the pedal guy", but partially
> >>>>>because
> >>>>> > shifting is not very direct in this car. I will let you take that
> >>>>>clue
> >>>>> > from there.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > You are also correct that there is very little brake dive,
> Given
> >>>>> > that
> >>>>> > most folks are narrowing in on a smaller displacement engine and I
> >>>>>gave
> >>>>> > away the 0-100 time (in Z06 territory) you know this has to be
> >>>>>light.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Thats all I am saying for now.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Jeff Cobb <jeffcobb1 at me.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >> I will go further out on a limb.
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> This unknown car slowly traverses low amplitude train tracks, yet
> >>>>>you
> >>>>> >> can
> >>>>> >> hear the broken/loose shock top mounts allowing much vertical
> >>>>>movement
> >>>>> >> so
> >>>>> >> it will be a light weight car with antiquated suspension. Yet the
> >>>>>heavy
> >>>>> >> clunks would indicate the top suspension parts are loose in a
> >>>>>subframe
> >>>>> >> or
> >>>>> >> the lowers on the axle mounts, not a body.
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> The driver does not feel good about truly getting on the power, as
> >>>>> >> shown
> >>>>> >> by the "I am worried about breaking something or this car is hard
> >>>>>to
> >>>>> >> shift
> >>>>> >> so I will short shift first gear", so we have a breaker and must
> be
> >>>>> >> careful. So I guess 1966 to 1977.
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> At second 7 the quick engine rev up indicates vacuum/sliding
> piston
> >>>>> >> carbs
> >>>>> >> or a 450 +- cfm 2 barrel.
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> Long times between shifts indicate a cast iron four speed and a
> long
> >>>>> >> throw
> >>>>> >> or weak clutch pedal function.
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> Low amount of rear body dive/dip rules out the TR-6.
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> At second 15, the dramatic on/off sounds are so English or Ford.
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> The exhaust sound of second 14 to 21 wfo indicates whooshing of
> >>>>>maybe
> >>>>> >> two
> >>>>> >> small diameter exhaust pipes with weak/blownout mufflers yet a
> large
> >>>>> >> enough
> >>>>> >> engine because of the throat noise, fine acceleration and no
> exhaust
> >>>>> >> smoke.
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> The slowing down shows low brake dive and again no down shifting
> >>>>>would
> >>>>> >> indicate that shifting difficulty again.
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> So I guess a Mustang 289, TVR, modified TR-8 or Jenson V8.
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> Extra pickles, please.
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> Jeff Cobb
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> At second 14
> >>>>> >> On Mar 9, 2013, at 11:17 PM, David Fisher <fisher95020 at gmail.com>
> >>>>> >> wrote:
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> > Here's a clue. This is a new toy to me - so you can eliminate
> >>>>>the
> >>>>> >> > Jag E
> >>>>> >> > type from the equation. I like Jeff's analysis of the clatter
> >>>>>over
> >>>>> >> > the
> >>>>> >> > railroad tracks.
> >>>>> >> >
> >>>>> >> >
> >>>>> >> > On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 6:46 PM, michael at michaelshortt.com <
> >>>>> >> > michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> >> >
> >>>>> >> >>> 10 pts for # of cylinders 6
> >>>>> >> >>> 20 pts of displacement (within 500cc) 2.5 lier
> >>>>> >> >>> 10 pts for engines home country England
> >>>>> >> >>> 10 pts for guessing 0-100 mph (within 1/4 sec) 15
> >>>>> >> >>> 30 pts for telling me what car it is Triumph TR-6
> with
> >>>>> >> Webers.
> >>>>> >> >>
> >>>>> >> >>
> >>>>> >> >> Michael Shortt
> >>>>> >> >>
> >>>>> >> >>
> >>>>> >> >>
> >>>>> >> >>
> >>>>> >> >> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> >>>>>wrote:
> >>>>> >> >>
> >>>>> >> >>> Sounds like the venerable Jaguar straight 6. I can't tell if
> >>>>>its a
> >>>>> >> >>> 3.8
> >>>>> >> or
> >>>>> >> >>> 4.2 so I will guess 4.0 and cover all my bases. Of course it's
> >>>>> >> >>> British.
> >>>>> >> >>> It's unlikely to be in a mk II or a D type so I am going to
> >>>>>guess E
> >>>>> >> type.
> >>>>> >> >>> Lets say 14 sex quarter mile.
> >>>>> >> >>>
> >>>>> >> >>> How did I do?
> >>>>> >> >>> Mike
> >>>>> >> >>>
> >>>>> >> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>> >> >>>
> >>>>> >> >>> On Mar 9, 2013, at 19:45, David Fisher <fisher95020 at gmail.com
> >
> >>>>> >> >>> wrote:
> >>>>> >> >>>
> >>>>> >> >>>> I figure this might be a bit of fun for the weekend. Let's
> see
> >>>>> >> >>>> who
> >>>>> >> can
> >>>>> >> >>> get
> >>>>> >> >>>> the highest score on this puzzle. I was doing some fuel
> >>>>>mapping
> >>>>> >> >>>> on a
> >>>>> >> >>> toy
> >>>>> >> >>>> last weekend.
> >>>>> >> >>>>
> >>>>> >> >>>> Take a listen to the video and tell me what it is.
> >>>>> >> >>>>
> >>>>> >> >>>> http://youtu.be/WN1GevRwtKk
> >>>>> >> >>>>
> >>>>> >> >>>> 10 pts for # of cylinders
> >>>>> >> >>>> 20 pts of displacement (within 500cc)
> >>>>> >> >>>> 10 pts for engines home country
> >>>>> >> >>>> 10 pts for guessing 0-100 mph (within 1/4 sec)
> >>>>> >> >>>> 30 pts for telling me what car it is
> >>>>> >> >>>>
> >>>>> >> >>>>
> >>>>> >> >>>> Total of 70 pts. I'll by a burger for the winner. :-)
> >>>>> >> >>>>
> >>>>> >> >>>> David
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> >>>>> >> >> --
> >>>>> >> >>
> >>>>> >> >>
> >>>>> >> >>
> >>>>> >> >>
> >>>>> >> >>
> >>>>> >> >>
> >>>>> >> >>
> >>>>> >> >> Michael L. Shortt
> >>>>> >> >> Savannah, Georgia
> >>>>> >> >> www.michaelshortt.com
> >>>>> >> >> michael at michaelshortt.com
> >>>>> >> >> 912-232-9390
> >>>>> >> >>
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> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Sean Korb spkorb at spkorb.org http://www.spkorb.org
> >>>>> '65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera
> >>>>>#1382
> >>>>> "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
> >>>>> "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso
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> >>>Sean Korb spkorb at spkorb.org http://www.spkorb.org
> >>>'65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera
> #1382
> >>>"The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
> >>>"Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso
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> > Sean Korb spkorb at spkorb.org http://www.spkorb.org
> > '65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera
> #1382
> > "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
> > "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso
>
>
>
> --
> Sean Korb spkorb at spkorb.org http://www.spkorb.org
> '65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera #1382
> "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
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