[DeTomaso] Puzzle for the gear heads

Sean Korb spkorb at gmail.com
Sun Mar 10 20:12:39 EDT 2013 

Nice!  Many of the Spyder kit manufacturers have the parts needed to
put a Subbie motor in there.  That's in 10 second territory.
Blindingly quick!

sean

On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
> No - a Beck Spyder
> http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0209_2002_beck_spyder/viewal
> l.html
>
> But 0-100 in 10.4 secs?  No way with a VW engine.
>
> How about an older 911?  I would say 911 Turbo (930) but I didn't hear a
> whine.
>
> --
> Will
>
>
>
>
>
> On 3/10/13 7:57 PM, "Sean Korb" <spkorb at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Factory Five 818?
>>
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dw7BBZAU6M
>>
>>On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 6:57 PM, David Fisher <fisher95020 at gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>> Ok. You guys are getting fairly close.  Here's the last clue which
>>>ought to
>>> get us to the finish line
>>>
>>> Its a boxer motor,  between 2 and 3 litres.
>>>
>>> On Mar 10, 2013 3:41 PM, "Sean Korb" <spkorb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Wow, really reaching here...
>>>>
>>>> A Dwarf car with an R1 Yamaha motor?  That's *really* small
>>>> displacement though and 100MPH is like 15 seconds.  Hmmm. A turbo
>>>> 'busa motor would get it there pretty quickly.
>>>>
>>>> I'm going for Lotus 7 kit with a turbo 'busa motor.
>>>>
>>>> sean
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 3:36 PM, David Fisher <fisher95020 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Ahh... you guys are a creative bunch!  Jeff has uncovered a few clues
>>>> > that
>>>> > are getting closer.
>>>> >
>>>> > First,  The driver is worried about shifting... partially because I
>>>>have
>>>> > always been a "shift slow and mash the pedal guy", but partially
>>>>because
>>>> > shifting is not very direct in this car.   I will let you take that
>>>>clue
>>>> > from there.
>>>> >
>>>> > You are also correct that there is very little brake dive,     Given
>>>> > that
>>>> > most folks are narrowing in on a smaller displacement engine and I
>>>>gave
>>>> > away the 0-100 time  (in Z06 territory) you know this has to be
>>>>light.
>>>> >
>>>> > Thats all I am saying for now.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Jeff Cobb <jeffcobb1 at me.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> I will go further out on a limb.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> This unknown car slowly traverses low amplitude train tracks, yet
>>>>you
>>>> >> can
>>>> >> hear the broken/loose shock top mounts allowing much vertical
>>>>movement
>>>> >> so
>>>> >> it will be a light weight car with antiquated suspension. Yet the
>>>>heavy
>>>> >> clunks would indicate the  top suspension parts are loose in a
>>>>subframe
>>>> >> or
>>>> >> the lowers on the axle mounts, not a body.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The driver does not feel good about truly getting on the power, as
>>>> >> shown
>>>> >> by the "I am worried about breaking something or  this car is hard
>>>>to
>>>> >> shift
>>>> >> so I will short shift first gear", so we have a breaker and must be
>>>> >> careful. So I guess 1966 to 1977.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> At second 7 the quick engine rev up indicates vacuum/sliding piston
>>>> >> carbs
>>>> >> or a 450 +- cfm 2 barrel.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Long times between shifts indicate a cast iron four speed and a long
>>>> >> throw
>>>> >> or weak clutch pedal function.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Low amount of rear body dive/dip rules out the TR-6.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> At second 15, the dramatic on/off sounds are so English or Ford.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The exhaust sound of second 14 to 21 wfo indicates whooshing of
>>>>maybe
>>>> >> two
>>>> >> small diameter exhaust pipes with weak/blownout mufflers yet a large
>>>> >> enough
>>>> >> engine because of the throat noise, fine acceleration and no exhaust
>>>> >> smoke.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The slowing down shows low brake dive and again no down shifting
>>>>would
>>>> >> indicate that shifting difficulty again.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> So I guess a Mustang 289, TVR, modified TR-8 or Jenson V8.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Extra pickles, please.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Jeff Cobb
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> At second 14
>>>> >> On Mar 9, 2013, at 11:17 PM, David Fisher <fisher95020 at gmail.com>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > Here's a clue.   This is a new toy to me - so you can eliminate
>>>>the
>>>> >> > Jag E
>>>> >> > type from the equation.   I like Jeff's analysis of the clatter
>>>>over
>>>> >> > the
>>>> >> > railroad tracks.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 6:46 PM, michael at michaelshortt.com <
>>>> >> > michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >>> 10 pts for # of cylinders    6
>>>> >> >>> 20 pts of displacement (within 500cc)    2.5 lier
>>>> >> >>> 10 pts for engines home country            England
>>>> >> >>> 10 pts for guessing 0-100 mph (within 1/4 sec)       15
>>>> >> >>> 30 pts for telling me what car it is           Triumph TR-6 with
>>>> >> Webers.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Michael Shortt
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>> Sounds like the venerable Jaguar straight 6. I can't tell if
>>>>its a
>>>> >> >>> 3.8
>>>> >> or
>>>> >> >>> 4.2 so I will guess 4.0 and cover all my bases. Of course it's
>>>> >> >>> British.
>>>> >> >>> It's unlikely to be in a mk II or a D type so I am going to
>>>>guess E
>>>> >> type.
>>>> >> >>> Lets say 14 sex quarter mile.
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> How did I do?
>>>> >> >>> Mike
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> On Mar 9, 2013, at 19:45, David Fisher <fisher95020 at gmail.com>
>>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> I figure this might be a bit of fun for the weekend.  Let's see
>>>> >> >>>> who
>>>> >> can
>>>> >> >>> get
>>>> >> >>>> the highest score on this puzzle.   I was doing some fuel
>>>>mapping
>>>> >> >>>> on a
>>>> >> >>> toy
>>>> >> >>>> last weekend.
>>>> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>> Take a listen to the video and tell me what it is.
>>>> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>> http://youtu.be/WN1GevRwtKk
>>>> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>> 10 pts for # of cylinders
>>>> >> >>>> 20 pts of displacement (within 500cc)
>>>> >> >>>> 10 pts for engines home country
>>>> >> >>>> 10 pts for guessing 0-100 mph (within 1/4 sec)
>>>> >> >>>> 30 pts for telling me what car it is
>>>> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>> Total of 70 pts.  I'll by a burger for the winner. :-)
>>>> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>> David
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>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Michael L. Shortt
>>>> >> >> Savannah, Georgia
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