[DeTomaso] Puzzle for the gear heads

Sun Mar 10 20:07:59 EDT 2013

No - a Beck Spyder 
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0209_2002_beck_spyder/viewal
l.html

But 0-100 in 10.4 secs?  No way with a VW engine.

How about an older 911?  I would say 911 Turbo (930) but I didn't hear a
whine.

--
Will

On 3/10/13 7:57 PM, "Sean Korb" <spkorb at gmail.com> wrote:

>Factory Five 818?
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dw7BBZAU6M
>
>On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 6:57 PM, David Fisher <fisher95020 at gmail.com>
>wrote:
>> Ok. You guys are getting fairly close.  Here's the last clue which
>>ought to
>> get us to the finish line
>>
>> Its a boxer motor,  between 2 and 3 litres.
>>
>> On Mar 10, 2013 3:41 PM, "Sean Korb" <spkorb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Wow, really reaching here...
>>>
>>> A Dwarf car with an R1 Yamaha motor?  That's *really* small
>>> displacement though and 100MPH is like 15 seconds.  Hmmm. A turbo
>>> 'busa motor would get it there pretty quickly.
>>>
>>> I'm going for Lotus 7 kit with a turbo 'busa motor.
>>>
>>> sean
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 3:36 PM, David Fisher <fisher95020 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Ahh... you guys are a creative bunch!  Jeff has uncovered a few clues
>>> > that
>>> > are getting closer.
>>> >
>>> > First,  The driver is worried about shifting... partially because I
>>>have
>>> > always been a "shift slow and mash the pedal guy", but partially
>>>because
>>> > shifting is not very direct in this car.   I will let you take that
>>>clue
>>> > from there.
>>> >
>>> > You are also correct that there is very little brake dive,     Given
>>> > that
>>> > most folks are narrowing in on a smaller displacement engine and I
>>>gave
>>> > away the 0-100 time  (in Z06 territory) you know this has to be
>>>light.
>>> >
>>> > Thats all I am saying for now.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Jeff Cobb <jeffcobb1 at me.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I will go further out on a limb.
>>> >>
>>> >> This unknown car slowly traverses low amplitude train tracks, yet
>>>you
>>> >> can
>>> >> hear the broken/loose shock top mounts allowing much vertical
>>>movement
>>> >> so
>>> >> it will be a light weight car with antiquated suspension. Yet the
>>>heavy
>>> >> clunks would indicate the  top suspension parts are loose in a
>>>subframe
>>> >> or
>>> >> the lowers on the axle mounts, not a body.
>>> >>
>>> >> The driver does not feel good about truly getting on the power, as
>>> >> shown
>>> >> by the "I am worried about breaking something or  this car is hard
>>>to
>>> >> shift
>>> >> so I will short shift first gear", so we have a breaker and must be
>>> >> careful. So I guess 1966 to 1977.
>>> >>
>>> >> At second 7 the quick engine rev up indicates vacuum/sliding piston
>>> >> carbs
>>> >> or a 450 +- cfm 2 barrel.
>>> >>
>>> >> Long times between shifts indicate a cast iron four speed and a long
>>> >> throw
>>> >> or weak clutch pedal function.
>>> >>
>>> >> Low amount of rear body dive/dip rules out the TR-6.
>>> >>
>>> >> At second 15, the dramatic on/off sounds are so English or Ford.
>>> >>
>>> >> The exhaust sound of second 14 to 21 wfo indicates whooshing of
>>>maybe
>>> >> two
>>> >> small diameter exhaust pipes with weak/blownout mufflers yet a large
>>> >> enough
>>> >> engine because of the throat noise, fine acceleration and no exhaust
>>> >> smoke.
>>> >>
>>> >> The slowing down shows low brake dive and again no down shifting
>>>would
>>> >> indicate that shifting difficulty again.
>>> >>
>>> >> So I guess a Mustang 289, TVR, modified TR-8 or Jenson V8.
>>> >>
>>> >> Extra pickles, please.
>>> >>
>>> >> Jeff Cobb
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> At second 14
>>> >> On Mar 9, 2013, at 11:17 PM, David Fisher <fisher95020 at gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > Here's a clue.   This is a new toy to me - so you can eliminate
>>>the
>>> >> > Jag E
>>> >> > type from the equation.   I like Jeff's analysis of the clatter
>>>over
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > railroad tracks.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 6:46 PM, michael at michaelshortt.com <
>>> >> > michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >>> 10 pts for # of cylinders    6
>>> >> >>> 20 pts of displacement (within 500cc)    2.5 lier
>>> >> >>> 10 pts for engines home country            England
>>> >> >>> 10 pts for guessing 0-100 mph (within 1/4 sec)       15
>>> >> >>> 30 pts for telling me what car it is           Triumph TR-6 with
>>> >> Webers.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Michael Shortt
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
>>>wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>> Sounds like the venerable Jaguar straight 6. I can't tell if
>>>its a
>>> >> >>> 3.8
>>> >> or
>>> >> >>> 4.2 so I will guess 4.0 and cover all my bases. Of course it's
>>> >> >>> British.
>>> >> >>> It's unlikely to be in a mk II or a D type so I am going to
>>>guess E
>>> >> type.
>>> >> >>> Lets say 14 sex quarter mile.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> How did I do?
>>> >> >>> Mike
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> On Mar 9, 2013, at 19:45, David Fisher <fisher95020 at gmail.com>
>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>> I figure this might be a bit of fun for the weekend.  Let's see
>>> >> >>>> who
>>> >> can
>>> >> >>> get
>>> >> >>>> the highest score on this puzzle.   I was doing some fuel
>>>mapping
>>> >> >>>> on a
>>> >> >>> toy
>>> >> >>>> last weekend.
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> Take a listen to the video and tell me what it is.
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> http://youtu.be/WN1GevRwtKk
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> 10 pts for # of cylinders
>>> >> >>>> 20 pts of displacement (within 500cc)
>>> >> >>>> 10 pts for engines home country
>>> >> >>>> 10 pts for guessing 0-100 mph (within 1/4 sec)
>>> >> >>>> 30 pts for telling me what car it is
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> Total of 70 pts.  I'll by a burger for the winner. :-)
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> David
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>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Michael L. Shortt
>>> >> >> Savannah, Georgia
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