[DeTomaso] Here we go...

Mon Nov 5 18:13:49 EST 2012

Steve

What is the protocol for compensating outside utility crews?

JT
On 11/5/2012 12:44 PM, shawkins777 at comcast.net wrote:
> As I just retired from an electric utility, crews come from all over the country to help each other out. A utility couldn't afford to employ the amount of crews it takes to recover from a major storm on a full time basis.
>
> Steve
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Will Kooiman" <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> To: gow2 at rc-tech.net
> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com, tonydigi at optonline.net
> Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 9:23:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Here we go...
>
> By the way, I recently drove from Houston to Little Rock through
> Texarkana. It was the week before the storm hit. I passed SEVERAL tree
> crews on I-30. I am sure they were driving to the east coast.
>
> I'm surprised at how far these crews drive to clean up after storms. I
> bet they started from Dallas/Ft. Worth, but that's ~1500 miles.
>
>
>
> On 11/5/12 11:07 AM, "gow2 at rc-tech.net" <gow2 at rc-tech.net> wrote:
>
>> A number of years ago when the electric companies consolidated here, they
>> dropped most of their tree maintenance crews. The philosophy most power
>> companies use any more is just call in the big guns when it get's bad. It
>> also means power outages last much longer then they used to.
>>
>> Out in the sticks any major storm causes power outages. We used a portable
>> generator for a while but ended up getting a dedicated house generator
>> which runs on gas.
>>
>> In just a few short years we have run it a full week once, minimum of 3
>> days 3 times and probably a half dozen or more single days.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>> Pretty similar to the disasters we've had along the gulf - Rita and
>>> Katrina.
>>>
>>> It's scary how dependent we are on infrastructure, and especially
>>> electricity. We piggybacked on our neighbor's generator to keep our
>>> aquarium alive and our freezer frozen. There was no gasoline at the
>>> stations. It was drained during the evacuation. I siphoned some from
>>> our
>>> cars to fill my neighbor's generator.
>>>
>>> One big difference with Frankenstorm is we didn't have to worry about
>>> the
>>> cold.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/4/12 11:28 PM, "gow2 at rc-tech.net" <gow2 at rc-tech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was watching the news and what really stuck out for me was the people
>>>> with roads covered in tree's, roofs missing, etc....They gathered in
>>>> lines
>>>> to a single power outlet with 25 cell phone chargers hanging off of it
>>>> and
>>>> 100 people waiting their turn.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Yep, disaster is the only description. We're thankful we've never
>>>>> gone
>>>>> through that much devastation and can only think how much worse the
>>>>> ones
>>>>> we thought were bad would've been. One that stands out in my mind was
>>>>> when we first lived in Chicago burbs and had an ice storm. We were
>>>>> out
>>>>> in
>>>>> a little bedroom community of Hoffman Estates (that would be a rather
>>>>> booming Schaumburg area now from what I'm told) with 3 young children,
>>>>> one
>>>>> who was only months old. No power or heat altho think we did have
>>>>> phones.
>>>>> Luckily a co-worker of Jack's told us to haul ourselves into Chicago
>>>>> and
>>>>> bunk in their apartment until our power returned - think it was 2-3
>>>>> days.
>>>>> The scariest thing about that was seeing so many huge power lines down
>>>>> in
>>>>> the street - something one didn't want to go near.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> A minor tornado years later that only broke one tree limb was nothing
>>>>> in
>>>>> comparison since it landed in front of the car in the drive and think
>>>>> we'd
>>>>> gotten used to the windy Chicago climate by then.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, it has to get better for all our family back east - hang in
>>>>> there;
>>>>> we're thinking about you~~
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Judy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What a disaster.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Tony DiGiovanna <tonydigi at optonline.net>
>>>>> To: 'pantera list' <detomaso at realbig.com>
>>>>> Sent: Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:38 pm
>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Here we go...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ...and there we went. Holy cow. What a disaster. Never thought I'd
>>>>> see
>>>>> the day when there is no electric all week for 40 miles+ in every
>>>>> direction.
>>>>> I went 5 days with no power, 6 with no cable/internet/phone service.
>>>>> Work
>>>>> is still without power, and I can only get gas on odd days, with 1.5
>>>>> hr
>>>>> wait
>>>>> on line. I got away easy, but I have several neighbors with gigantic
>>>>> trees
>>>>> through their homes. Was able to piggy back off a neighbor's
>>>>> generator
>>>>> (I
>>>>> had gas to bargain with.) Rain was light, so I assume the Pcar is ok.
>>>>> I
>>>>> haven't been able to get in there.
>>>>> It can only get better I think.
>>>>> -Tony
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
>>>>> [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
>>>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of Tony DiGiovanna
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 3:51 PM
>>>>> To: 'pantera list'
>>>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Here we go...
>>>>>
>>>>> It's starting to drizzle here in northern NJ...Frankenstorm is coming
>>>>> as
>>>>> predicted.
>>>>> Due to construction at home, the Pcar and Mustang are in a 30' storage
>>>>> unit.
>>>>> I think its above the local high water mark, but I'm not 100% sure.
>>>>> One
>>>>> daily driver is in the unfinished new garage; the other is parked down
>>>>> the
>>>>> street in a parking lot...it's a wooded neighborhood, so there is
>>>>> potential
>>>>> for fallen trees blocking driveways and roads.
>>>>> Good luck to all my fellow Jersey Panteras members!
>>>>> -Tony
>>>>>
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