[DeTomaso] Oh S%$# Moment... Help Please

Mon Jun 4 11:55:42 EDT 2012

So after talking to many of you ( I much appreciate the many responses ),
I'm going to go with a temporary solution
before fabricating a whole new system ( which I'll share here when finished
) to serve as a hood latch.

Here's what happened,

The hood pin broke off aft of the little box that supports it under the
hood.
The balance of the pin was still inside the little box plus another 1"
extends out of the other end ( towards the front of the car ).

The pin measures 17/64ths of an inch, the bar stock at Lowes was either too
small or too big to serve as a replacement.

However, a Grade 8, 1/4 x 4" bolt is perfect because the shank portion is
thick and is over 3' long.

So I cut off the bolt head, and ground a slight rounded corner edge on it.

Next, the plan was to drill out the spot welds that held in the old pin and
knock the broken pin out,

That didn't work.

so the current plan is to perform a "pin-ectomy" by using a die grinder to
cut out the bottom strip of the steel box

which has the pin attached to it.

I'll be left with a little box with a right side, a cut out strip in the
middle about 3/8" wide and the left side of the box

Now, I'm going to cut a piece of steel plate 3/32" the same size of the
complete steel box, weld the pin to it

and fit that on top of the old sliced steel box, using the welded on pin to
fill the slot formerly filled by the old pin,

then use four screws to attach the steel plate w/welded pin to the old
steel box.  ( Thanks Bill Gaino ).

Once the Summer Summit is over, I'm trashing this and fitting a proper
spring loaded latch with a safety catch.

When that has beeen figured out, I'll share the results.

Michael Shortt

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 6:25 AM, michael at michaelshortt.com <
michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:

> Going to body shop this am. Taking photos
> On Jun 3, 2012 11:58 PM, "Pantdino" <pantdino at aol.com> wrote:
>
>>  My understanding is that the front of the car is pretty rigid, so there
>> will be less flexing than at the rear.
>> Assuming the lid were fully shut, if you had some dense foam rubber like
>> is used for wetsuits and it was firmly in place on each side of the
>> trunklid it would stabilize the lid and prevent any scratching of the
>> paint.  You could install that and take a few curves while having someone
>> watch the lid to see if it moved at all.
>>
>> Or could an experienced MIG / TIG welder repair the pin in situ?
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>> From: michael at michaelshortt.com <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
>> To: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
>> Sent: Sun, Jun 3, 2012 7:22 pm
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Oh S%$# Moment... Help Please
>>
>>  Going to summer summit in 4 days, lots of highway 15 hours and mtn
>> switchbacks, a little concerned about it moving around with stress on it
>> from side to side tossing about.
>> On Jun 3, 2012 10:10 PM, "Pantdino" <pantdino at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Have you closed the trunk lid? How does it sit?
>>> You might try running some sturdy but thin string / cord around what's
>>> left of the pin mount area and lower the lid.  I suspect if you took off
>>> the rubber weatherstripping / seal the lid would lie flat.
>>> If might lift a bit at high speed due to airflow, but you could probably
>>> drive the car like that.  Or just let it sit a bit high and drive it that
>>> way until you can fix it properly.
>>>
>>>
>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>> From: michael at michaelshortt.com <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
>>> To: david.tucker <david.tucker at chesapeakepanteras.com>
>>> Cc: DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at realbig.com>
>>> Sent: Sun, Jun 3, 2012 1:28 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Oh S%$# Moment... Help Please
>>>
>>> Front trunk, not rear.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 3:03 PM, David G Tucker <david.tucker at chesapeakepanteras.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > If you are referring to the rear deck latch, here it what you want:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product-category.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc
>>> > &pc=7359
>>> >
>>> > I used to have the POC wiry pin latch. It would allow the rear to move back
>>> > and forth and damage the rear fenders. This hold it in place. Hall is
>>> > closed
>>> > on Mondays but can overnight on Tuesday. PPC and others would have the same
>>> > thing. Yes it's bolt on. If this isn't what your looking for....never mind.
>>> >
>>> > Dave
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com <detomaso-bounces at realbig.com?>]
>>> > On
>>> > Behalf Of michael at michaelshortt.com
>>> > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 12:12 PM
>>> > To: DeTomaso Forum
>>> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Oh S%$# Moment... Help Please
>>> >
>>> > I just broke the metal rod off of the bracket that acts as a pin for the
>>> > hood hold down latch.
>>> > (Photo available)
>>> > My hood latch has long been a PIA, because the hood would unlatch itself
>>> > often Speed bumps, severe rumble strips) , I was just installing a new (to
>>> > me)
>>> > factory latch and was straightening the rod/pin/stud, when it simply broke
>>> > off in my pliers.
>>> >
>>> > Now WTF am I supposed to do, the hood was just painted (black) less than a
>>> > year ago, I do do relish any welding.
>>> >
>>> > Is there a bolt on option, replacing the tub mounted receiver and a bolted
>>> > on pin that I can attach to the car?
>>> >
>>> > The thought of hood pins is gagging me.
>>> >
>>> > I'm open to anything, especially if I can get it done by Wednesday night,
>>> > I'm supposed to leave Thursday morning for the Summer Summit.
>>> >
>>> > Any advice or ideas will be appreciated, no matter how far out they might
>>> > be.
>>> >
>>> > Michael
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Michael L. Shortt
>>> > Savannah, Georgia
>>> > www.michaelshortt.com
>>> > michael at michaelshortt.com
>>> > 912-232-9390
>>> >
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