[DeTomaso] Oh S%$# Moment... Help Please

Mon Jun 4 13:40:12 EDT 2012

Mike when I built my aluminum hood I used a generic latch sold by nearly
all the hot rod venders. It works well for a light weight aluminum hood.
This was the mockup when I was setting it up:

http://www.rc-tech.net/pantera1/hood/hood19.jpg

http://www.rc-tech.net/pantera1/hood/hood20.jpg

> So after talking to many of you ( I much appreciate the many responses ),
> I'm going to go with a temporary solution
> before fabricating a whole new system ( which I'll share here when
> finished
> ) to serve as a hood latch.
>
> Here's what happened,
>
> The hood pin broke off aft of the little box that supports it under the
> hood.
> The balance of the pin was still inside the little box plus another 1"
> extends out of the other end ( towards the front of the car ).
>
> The pin measures 17/64ths of an inch, the bar stock at Lowes was either
> too
> small or too big to serve as a replacement.
>
> However, a Grade 8, 1/4 x 4" bolt is perfect because the shank portion is
> thick and is over 3' long.
>
> So I cut off the bolt head, and ground a slight rounded corner edge on it.
>
> Next, the plan was to drill out the spot welds that held in the old pin
> and
> knock the broken pin out,
>
> That didn't work.
>
> so the current plan is to perform a "pin-ectomy" by using a die grinder to
> cut out the bottom strip of the steel box
>
> which has the pin attached to it.
>
> I'll be left with a little box with a right side, a cut out strip in the
> middle about 3/8" wide and the left side of the box
>
> Now, I'm going to cut a piece of steel plate 3/32" the same size of the
> complete steel box, weld the pin to it
>
> and fit that on top of the old sliced steel box, using the welded on pin
> to
> fill the slot formerly filled by the old pin,
>
> then use four screws to attach the steel plate w/welded pin to the old
> steel box.  ( Thanks Bill Gaino ).
>
> Once the Summer Summit is over, I'm trashing this and fitting a proper
> spring loaded latch with a safety catch.
>
> When that has beeen figured out, I'll share the results.
>
> Michael Shortt
>
> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 6:25 AM, michael at michaelshortt.com <
> michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Going to body shop this am. Taking photos
>> On Jun 3, 2012 11:58 PM, "Pantdino" <pantdino at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  My understanding is that the front of the car is pretty rigid, so
>>> there
>>> will be less flexing than at the rear.
>>> Assuming the lid were fully shut, if you had some dense foam rubber
>>> like
>>> is used for wetsuits and it was firmly in place on each side of the
>>> trunklid it would stabilize the lid and prevent any scratching of the
>>> paint.  You could install that and take a few curves while having
>>> someone
>>> watch the lid to see if it moved at all.
>>>
>>> Or could an experienced MIG / TIG welder repair the pin in situ?
>>>
>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>> From: michael at michaelshortt.com <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
>>> To: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
>>> Sent: Sun, Jun 3, 2012 7:22 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Oh S%$# Moment... Help Please
>>>
>>>  Going to summer summit in 4 days, lots of highway 15 hours and mtn
>>> switchbacks, a little concerned about it moving around with stress on
>>> it
>>> from side to side tossing about.
>>> On Jun 3, 2012 10:10 PM, "Pantdino" <pantdino at aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Have you closed the trunk lid? How does it sit?
>>>> You might try running some sturdy but thin string / cord around what's
>>>> left of the pin mount area and lower the lid.  I suspect if you took
>>>> off
>>>> the rubber weatherstripping / seal the lid would lie flat.
>>>> If might lift a bit at high speed due to airflow, but you could
>>>> probably
>>>> drive the car like that.  Or just let it sit a bit high and drive it
>>>> that
>>>> way until you can fix it properly.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: michael at michaelshortt.com <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
>>>> To: david.tucker <david.tucker at chesapeakepanteras.com>
>>>> Cc: DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at realbig.com>
>>>> Sent: Sun, Jun 3, 2012 1:28 pm
>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Oh S%$# Moment... Help Please
>>>>
>>>> Front trunk, not rear.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 3:03 PM, David G Tucker
>>>> <david.tucker at chesapeakepanteras.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > If you are referring to the rear deck latch, here it what you want:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product-category.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc
>>>> > &pc=7359
>>>> >
>>>> > I used to have the POC wiry pin latch. It would allow the rear to
>>>> move back
>>>> > and forth and damage the rear fenders. This hold it in place. Hall
>>>> is
>>>> > closed
>>>> > on Mondays but can overnight on Tuesday. PPC and others would have
>>>> the same
>>>> > thing. Yes it's bolt on. If this isn't what your looking
>>>> for....never mind.
>>>> >
>>>> > Dave
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> > From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
>>>> [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
>>>> <detomaso-bounces at realbig.com?>]
>>>> > On
>>>> > Behalf Of michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>> > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 12:12 PM
>>>> > To: DeTomaso Forum
>>>> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Oh S%$# Moment... Help Please
>>>> >
>>>> > I just broke the metal rod off of the bracket that acts as a pin for
>>>> the
>>>> > hood hold down latch.
>>>> > (Photo available)
>>>> > My hood latch has long been a PIA, because the hood would unlatch
>>>> itself
>>>> > often Speed bumps, severe rumble strips) , I was just installing a
>>>> new (to
>>>> > me)
>>>> > factory latch and was straightening the rod/pin/stud, when it simply
>>>> broke
>>>> > off in my pliers.
>>>> >
>>>> > Now WTF am I supposed to do, the hood was just painted (black) less
>>>> than a
>>>> > year ago, I do do relish any welding.
>>>> >
>>>> > Is there a bolt on option, replacing the tub mounted receiver and a
>>>> bolted
>>>> > on pin that I can attach to the car?
>>>> >
>>>> > The thought of hood pins is gagging me.
>>>> >
>>>> > I'm open to anything, especially if I can get it done by Wednesday
>>>> night,
>>>> > I'm supposed to leave Thursday morning for the Summer Summit.
>>>> >
>>>> > Any advice or ideas will be appreciated, no matter how far out they
>>>> might
>>>> > be.
>>>> >
>>>> > Michael
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
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>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Michael L. Shortt
>>>> > Savannah, Georgia
>>>> > www.michaelshortt.com
>>>> > michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>> > 912-232-9390
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