[DeTomaso] Sorta NPC, goodbye internal combustion engines

[boyd casey]

Dear Pantera brothers,
I don't want to be branded as "A Panty wearing Liberal" just because I may
share a view different from someone else's. In my humble opinion any one
who prefaces or ends a statement supporting their opinion by insulting the
manhood of another is suffering from self esteem issues or is perhaps
worried about there own level of "Machismo". My understanding is not that
Obama is against the new oil pipeline , but doesn't want to make a decision
until all the environmental questions have been answered. We are not
talking about a "normal" oil pipeline here. This is a pipeline to transport
"Black Sand oil" which is one of the most (if not the most" toxic oil
products known to man. There have already been some environmentally
disastrous spills in Minnesota, and Nebraska wanted the pipeline re-routed
out of their state. So I believe there are valid questions and concerns
that need to be looked at before we move forward. By the way how many of
you know that the US was a net* EXPORTER* of petroleum products in 2011. So
we are selling more oil products then we are importing. If things were
really that desperate how would that be possible?  If you doubt this fact
let me know and I will post the evidence and statistics I have.I don't
really like discussing political hot potatoes on this forum but I believe
this one is very important. If we are going to engage in a discussion of
this subject I propose we keep it intelligent, base it on facts, not
opinions and leave the name calling scrawled on the wall next to your crib.
Hugh Boyd Casey

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>wrote:

>
> Yeah, but it's not just the internal combustion engine..... I like to
> refer people to an old commercial by Occidental Peroleum entitled
> "Hydrocarbon Man" which highlights our dependence on hydrocarbon derived
> products. One can argue either way; I agree we need alternatives, but they
> need to be viable on both cost & environmental fronts.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D0kWskiRdQ
>
> So who is prepared to "do the right thing" and sell their Pantera to buy a
> Prius? I have potential buyers lined up that I have been helping look for
> good Pantera's :>), I might even buy another myself. My theory is the more
> cars in my garage the more I'm doing for the economy and the environment.
> For the economy I pay registration on all the cars, however I can only
> drive one at a time so I'm actively reducing the carbon footprint in
> comparison to if those cars were owned by 9 individuals al driving at the
> same time :>)
>
> Julian ("Earth first......we'll mine other planets later")
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 13:11:28 -0800
> > From: kenn_green at yahoo.com
> > To: detomaso at realbig.com
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Sorta NPC, goodbye internal combustion engines
> >
> > I assume everyone has seen that Obama killed the oil pipeline from
> Canada because environmentalists are worried that the method of production
> (in Canada) may be bad for the environment (Canada will just sell the oil
> to China).  This would also apply to recovering natural gas and oil in the
> US using similar methods.  Basically, a policy that will eventually end the
> use of the internal combustion engine in America when gas is priced out of
> reach and our economy crashes even worse because of energy costs.
> >
> > I agree that politics should be avoided in the discussion group, but if
> the direction of the country is not corrected soon, all we will be able to
> do is tell our grandchildren what it was like to be able to hop in a car
> and go where you want to.
> >
> > Anyone watch "Atlas Shrugged"?  It frighteningly foresaw this.
> >
> > Ken
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