[DeTomaso] Sorta NPC, goodbye internal combustion engines

michael@michaelshortt.com michaelsavga at gmail.com
Wed Jan 18 19:19:29 EST 2012


If you're going to drag my self esteem and crib into it while insulting me
with your peace and love message., then two words for you Boyd.

Typical "passive - aggressive" liberal panty wearing behavior.
On Jan 18, 2012 7:11 PM, "boyd casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Pantera brothers,
> I don't want to be branded as "A Panty wearing Liberal" just because I may
> share a view different from someone else's. In my humble opinion any one
> who prefaces or ends a statement supporting their opinion by insulting the
> manhood of another is suffering from self esteem issues or is perhaps
> worried about there own level of "Machismo". My understanding is not that
> Obama is against the new oil pipeline , but doesn't want to make a decision
> until all the environmental questions have been answered. We are not
> talking about a "normal" oil pipeline here. This is a pipeline to transport
> "Black Sand oil" which is one of the most (if not the most" toxic oil
> products known to man. There have already been some environmentally
> disastrous spills in Minnesota, and Nebraska wanted the pipeline re-routed
> out of their state. So I believe there are valid questions and concerns
> that need to be looked at before we move forward. By the way how many of
> you know that the US was a net* EXPORTER* of petroleum products in 2011. So
> we are selling more oil products then we are importing. If things were
> really that desperate how would that be possible?  If you doubt this fact
> let me know and I will post the evidence and statistics I have.I don't
> really like discussing political hot potatoes on this forum but I believe
> this one is very important. If we are going to engage in a discussion of
> this subject I propose we keep it intelligent, base it on facts, not
> opinions and leave the name calling scrawled on the wall next to your crib.
> Hugh Boyd Casey
>
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> >
> > Yeah, but it's not just the internal combustion engine..... I like to
> > refer people to an old commercial by Occidental Peroleum entitled
> > "Hydrocarbon Man" which highlights our dependence on hydrocarbon derived
> > products. One can argue either way; I agree we need alternatives, but
> they
> > need to be viable on both cost & environmental fronts.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D0kWskiRdQ
> >
> > So who is prepared to "do the right thing" and sell their Pantera to buy
> a
> > Prius? I have potential buyers lined up that I have been helping look for
> > good Pantera's :>), I might even buy another myself. My theory is the
> more
> > cars in my garage the more I'm doing for the economy and the environment.
> > For the economy I pay registration on all the cars, however I can only
> > drive one at a time so I'm actively reducing the carbon footprint in
> > comparison to if those cars were owned by 9 individuals al driving at the
> > same time :>)
> >
> > Julian ("Earth first......we'll mine other planets later")
> >
> >
> > > Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 13:11:28 -0800
> > > From: kenn_green at yahoo.com
> > > To: detomaso at realbig.com
> > > Subject: [DeTomaso] Sorta NPC, goodbye internal combustion engines
> > >
> > > I assume everyone has seen that Obama killed the oil pipeline from
> > Canada because environmentalists are worried that the method of
> production
> > (in Canada) may be bad for the environment (Canada will just sell the oil
> > to China).  This would also apply to recovering natural gas and oil in
> the
> > US using similar methods.  Basically, a policy that will eventually end
> the
> > use of the internal combustion engine in America when gas is priced out
> of
> > reach and our economy crashes even worse because of energy costs.
> > >
> > > I agree that politics should be avoided in the discussion group, but if
> > the direction of the country is not corrected soon, all we will be able
> to
> > do is tell our grandchildren what it was like to be able to hop in a car
> > and go where you want to.
> > >
> > > Anyone watch "Atlas Shrugged"?  It frighteningly foresaw this.
> > >
> > > Ken
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