[DeTomaso] Meziere water pumps

[gow2 at rc-tech.net]

There is enough usage and development of water pumps I think the quality
is getting to where they are and will be a viable alternative.

As far a speed, optimum speed what ever that may be is optimum speed. I
don't see a need for the pump to change speed. if you have a good flowing
bypass with thermostats.

Ken the bypas I got a while back was nice but it did not block the bypass
with the thermostat open which. I started making a 2 thermostat flow
through with bypass to ensure good flow.

Gary


> Michael,
>  
>     I have the same gut feeling about increasing the failure modes by
> adding electrical components, but the water pump may be an exception.  The
> Meziere electric pumps have a projected life of 3,000 hours.  They also
> don't have the load of a belt to deal with, and people who use them seem
> to think they are great.  I suspect that they reduce the oveall failure
> rate of a vehicle. 
>  
> Ken
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
> To: michael at michaelshortt.com
> Cc: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>; "detomaso at realbig.com"
> <detomaso at realbig.com>; Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>;
> Bill at incendium.com
> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Meziere water pumps
>
>
> I personally wouldn't use one, I've had far more electrical malfunctions
> (battery, alternator, etc) than I have had waterpump failures or belts
> breaking.
> Michael
> On Jan 15, 2012 10:23 PM, "michael at michaelshortt.com"
> <michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Right you are, I stand corrected.
>>MICHAEL
>>On Jan 15, 2012 10:21 PM, "Bill Moore" <Bill at incendium.com> wrote:
>>
>>Michael, Ken did say Parallel not series. However the size of coolant
>> lines, diameter and length also enter into the equation.
>>>
>>>
>>>Regards:
>>>Bill Moore
>>>Incendium Supply Ltd
>>>Suite 416, 305-4625 Varsity Dr NW
>>>Calgary, Alberta
>>>T3A 0Z9
>>>
>>>403 202 0055
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From:   "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
>>>Sender: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
>>>Date:   Sun, 15 Jan 2012 22:14:15
>>>To: Ken Green<kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>>>Reply-To: michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>Cc: Asa Jay Laughton<asajay at asajay.com>;
>>> detomaso at realbig.com<detomaso at realbig.com>
>>>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Meziere water pumps
>>>
>>>I am not an engineer nor do I have any training in fluid dynamics, but I
>>>don't see how running two in a series will move any additional coolant,
>>>maybe in parallel.  Somebody educate me
>>>
>>>MICHAEL
>>>On Jan 15, 2012 10:10 PM, "Ken Green" <kenn_green at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Asa,
>>>>
>>>>     I have  Meziere WP311B which is rated at 55 GPM with no load.  I
>>>> don't
>>>> think they make a Cleveland specific pump, but they make a back plate
>>>> PN
>>>> WP123B.  The original recirculation passage is covered, so you need to
>>>> do
>>>> something different for warm up.  Maybe a PWM controller (talk to Dave
>>>> Londry about that).
>>>>
>>>>     The folks at Meziere told me that the pump actually pumps about 33
>>>> GPM
>>>> in a car, and that's about what a really good mechanical pump does at
>>>> 3,500
>>>> RPM.  So it's better than a good mechanical pump below 3,500, and
>>>> pumps
>>>> less above 3,500, so it's not the hot setup if you want to run an open
>>>> road
>>>> race at 5,000 RPM, but you can run two remote pumps in parallel and
>>>> move
>>>> plenty of coolant.
>>>>
>>>>     They have a great reputation and should be very good for anything
>>>> less
>>>> than sustained high RPM.
>>>>
>>>> Ken
>>>>
>>>> From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
>>>> To: detomaso at realbig.com
>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 3:29 PM
>>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Meziere water pumps
>>>>
>>>> Anyone on this list installed a remote Meziere electric water pump
>>>> with
>>>> their Ford 351C?
>>>> http://www.meziere.com
>>>> If so, what parts, part numbers did you use and how did you go about
>>>> it?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Asa Jay
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>>> &  Shelley Marie
>>>> Spokane, WA
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