[DeTomaso] Meziere water pumps

[Ken Green]

Michael,
 
    I have the same gut feeling about increasing the failure modes by adding electrical components, but the water pump may be an exception.  The Meziere electric pumps have a projected life of 3,000 hours.  They also don't have the load of a belt to deal with, and people who use them seem to think they are great.  I suspect that they reduce the oveall failure rate of a vehicle. 
 
Ken


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From: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
To: michael at michaelshortt.com 
Cc: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>; "detomaso at realbig.com" <detomaso at realbig.com>; Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>; Bill at incendium.com 
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Meziere water pumps


I personally wouldn't use one, I've had far more electrical malfunctions (battery, alternator, etc) than I have had waterpump failures or belts breaking.
Michael
On Jan 15, 2012 10:23 PM, "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:

Right you are, I stand corrected.
>MICHAEL
>On Jan 15, 2012 10:21 PM, "Bill Moore" <Bill at incendium.com> wrote:
>
>Michael, Ken did say Parallel not series. However the size of coolant lines, diameter and length also enter into the equation.
>>
>>
>>Regards:
>>Bill Moore
>>Incendium Supply Ltd
>>Suite 416, 305-4625 Varsity Dr NW
>>Calgary, Alberta
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From:   "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
>>Sender: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
>>Date:   Sun, 15 Jan 2012 22:14:15
>>To: Ken Green<kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>>Reply-To: michael at michaelshortt.com
>>Cc: Asa Jay Laughton<asajay at asajay.com>; detomaso at realbig.com<detomaso at realbig.com>
>>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Meziere water pumps
>>
>>I am not an engineer nor do I have any training in fluid dynamics, but I
>>don't see how running two in a series will move any additional coolant,
>>maybe in parallel.  Somebody educate me
>>
>>MICHAEL
>>On Jan 15, 2012 10:10 PM, "Ken Green" <kenn_green at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Asa,
>>>
>>>     I have  Meziere WP311B which is rated at 55 GPM with no load.  I don't
>>> think they make a Cleveland specific pump, but they make a back plate PN
>>> WP123B.  The original recirculation passage is covered, so you need to do
>>> something different for warm up.  Maybe a PWM controller (talk to Dave
>>> Londry about that).
>>>
>>>     The folks at Meziere told me that the pump actually pumps about 33 GPM
>>> in a car, and that's about what a really good mechanical pump does at 3,500
>>> RPM.  So it's better than a good mechanical pump below 3,500, and pumps
>>> less above 3,500, so it's not the hot setup if you want to run an open road
>>> race at 5,000 RPM, but you can run two remote pumps in parallel and move
>>> plenty of coolant.
>>>
>>>     They have a great reputation and should be very good for anything less
>>> than sustained high RPM.
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
>>> From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
>>> To: detomaso at realbig.com
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 3:29 PM
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Meziere water pumps
>>>
>>> Anyone on this list installed a remote Meziere electric water pump with
>>> their Ford 351C?
>>> http://www.meziere.com
>>> If so, what parts, part numbers did you use and how did you go about it?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Asa Jay
>>>
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