[DeTomaso] unions?

[GW]

I know I will never buy another GM car; EVER!

michael at michaelshortt.com wrote:
> Here Here, excellent Bill.
>
> Michael
> On Oct 30, 2011 8:49 PM, "Bill Lewis" <lotus0005 at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> One small point here is that, assuming that you are true, Doug S., that
>> corporations right now are making too much money, and corporate officers
>> are way too highly paid - maybe ALL things work in a circle; point being
>> that when unions first came into being they were actually needed to prevent
>> deaths, child labor, etc., but then as they matured and found out how to
>> put more money in their pocket they became fat, greedy hogs.  Maybe
>> corporations have now done this.  I think that as long as they can do this,
>> why not - but I do agree with you that government money (our/my taxes)
>> should not be involved.  I would have rather seen GM go under.  A little
>> pain would have caused folks to wake up (both the unions and the white
>> collars).  Ah, but, alas, contemporary people have fairly short memories,
>> and history does repeat itself.  The bad stuff will all come back around in
>> 50/100 years, etc.  And, let me add my favorite rant:  nothing will change
>> for the good until laws with BIG, SHARP teeth are passed regulating
>> lobbyists and politicians!!!!!!!!       ----Bill Lewis
>>
>>
>>
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>>> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:00:47 -0700
>>> From: sedond at yahoo.com
>>> To: gow2 at rc-tech.net
>>> CC: detomaso at realbig.com
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] unions?  (was:  Re:  Something to shoot for (NPC))
>>>
>>> it is not the unions that are causing the problem w/companies' greed and
>>>       
>> their going off-shore.  what is wrong w/the idea that an honest working
>> class blue collar worker can support a family on a decent wage?  unions
>> made this possible.  the problem we are having is that the federal
>> government deregulation has allowed companies to move offshore, cutting
>> their costs substantially, while keeping the prices of the products the
>> same.  great for the rich stockholders and ceo's, screw everyone else.  if
>> these companies were regulated so as to not be able to reap the profits of
>> slave-wage-rate labor, no off-shore safety/enwironmental regulation, etc.;
>> then there would not have been such a huge exodus of american manufacturing
>> to third-world countries.
>>     
>>> interesting article, tracking the fate of america's middle class, and
>>>       
>> its unions:
>>     
>> http://talkingunion.wordpress.com/2011/08/03/decline-in-unions-a-leading-factor-in-income-inequality/
>>     
>>> regarding ceo's being overpaid, i support, where possible, buying from
>>>       
>> non-american companies, who use american labor.  non-american companies
>> typically pay their ceo's ~30 times what their average workers earn;
>> w/american companies this figure is more like 300 times the salary of the
>> average worker.  here's a guide for wehicles and where they're made.
>>  notice many foreign auto companies have "off-shored" a lot of the work to
>> america.  but at least here, there are reasonable safety/enwironmental
>> standards, etc., and the workers are paid more than subsistence wages...
>>     
>>> http://www.howtobuyamerican.com/content/db/b-db-autos.shtml
>>>
>>> ymmv,
>>>
>>> doug s.,
>>> #2602
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