[DeTomaso] unions? (was: Re: Something to shoot for (NPC))

Sun Oct 30 20:55:08 EDT 2011

Here Here, excellent Bill.

Michael
On Oct 30, 2011 8:49 PM, "Bill Lewis" <lotus0005 at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> One small point here is that, assuming that you are true, Doug S., that
> corporations right now are making too much money, and corporate officers
> are way too highly paid - maybe ALL things work in a circle; point being
> that when unions first came into being they were actually needed to prevent
> deaths, child labor, etc., but then as they matured and found out how to
> put more money in their pocket they became fat, greedy hogs.  Maybe
> corporations have now done this.  I think that as long as they can do this,
> why not - but I do agree with you that government money (our/my taxes)
> should not be involved.  I would have rather seen GM go under.  A little
> pain would have caused folks to wake up (both the unions and the white
> collars).  Ah, but, alas, contemporary people have fairly short memories,
> and history does repeat itself.  The bad stuff will all come back around in
> 50/100 years, etc.  And, let me add my favorite rant:  nothing will change
> for the good until laws with BIG, SHARP teeth are passed regulating
> lobbyists and politicians!!!!!!!!       ----Bill Lewis
>
>
>
> > Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:00:47 -0700
> > From: sedond at yahoo.com
> > To: gow2 at rc-tech.net
> > CC: detomaso at realbig.com
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] unions?  (was:  Re:  Something to shoot for (NPC))
> >
> > it is not the unions that are causing the problem w/companies' greed and
> their going off-shore.  what is wrong w/the idea that an honest working
> class blue collar worker can support a family on a decent wage?  unions
> made this possible.  the problem we are having is that the federal
> government deregulation has allowed companies to move offshore, cutting
> their costs substantially, while keeping the prices of the products the
> same.  great for the rich stockholders and ceo's, screw everyone else.  if
> these companies were regulated so as to not be able to reap the profits of
> slave-wage-rate labor, no off-shore safety/enwironmental regulation, etc.;
> then there would not have been such a huge exodus of american manufacturing
> to third-world countries.
> >
> > interesting article, tracking the fate of america's middle class, and
> its unions:
> >
> http://talkingunion.wordpress.com/2011/08/03/decline-in-unions-a-leading-factor-in-income-inequality/
> >
> > regarding ceo's being overpaid, i support, where possible, buying from
> non-american companies, who use american labor.  non-american companies
> typically pay their ceo's ~30 times what their average workers earn;
> w/american companies this figure is more like 300 times the salary of the
> average worker.  here's a guide for wehicles and where they're made.
>  notice many foreign auto companies have "off-shored" a lot of the work to
> america.  but at least here, there are reasonable safety/enwironmental
> standards, etc., and the workers are paid more than subsistence wages...
> >
> >
> > http://www.howtobuyamerican.com/content/db/b-db-autos.shtml
> >
> > ymmv,
> >
> > doug s.,
> > #2602
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