[DeTomaso] unions? (was: Re: Something to shoot for (NPC))

[Bill Lewis]

One small point here is that, assuming that you are true, Doug S., that corporations right now are making too much money, and corporate officers are way too highly paid - maybe ALL things work in a circle; point being that when unions first came into being they were actually needed to prevent deaths, child labor, etc., but then as they matured and found out how to put more money in their pocket they became fat, greedy hogs.  Maybe corporations have now done this.  I think that as long as they can do this, why not - but I do agree with you that government money (our/my taxes) should not be involved.  I would have rather seen GM go under.  A little pain would have caused folks to wake up (both the unions and the white collars).  Ah, but, alas, contemporary people have fairly short memories, and history does repeat itself.  The bad stuff will all come back around in 50/100 years, etc.  And, let me add my favorite rant:  nothing will change for the good until laws with BIG, SHARP teeth are passed regulating lobbyists and politicians!!!!!!!!       ----Bill Lewis



> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:00:47 -0700
> From: sedond at yahoo.com
> To: gow2 at rc-tech.net
> CC: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] unions?  (was:  Re:  Something to shoot for (NPC))
> 
> it is not the unions that are causing the problem w/companies' greed and their going off-shore.  what is wrong w/the idea that an honest working class blue collar worker can support a family on a decent wage?  unions made this possible.  the problem we are having is that the federal government deregulation has allowed companies to move offshore, cutting their costs substantially, while keeping the prices of the products the same.  great for the rich stockholders and ceo's, screw everyone else.  if these companies were regulated so as to not be able to reap the profits of slave-wage-rate labor, no off-shore safety/enwironmental regulation, etc.; then there would not have been such a huge exodus of american manufacturing to third-world countries.
> 
> interesting article, tracking the fate of america's middle class, and its unions:
> http://talkingunion.wordpress.com/2011/08/03/decline-in-unions-a-leading-factor-in-income-inequality/
> 
> regarding ceo's being overpaid, i support, where possible, buying from non-american companies, who use american labor.  non-american companies typically pay their ceo's ~30 times what their average workers earn; w/american companies this figure is more like 300 times the salary of the average worker.  here's a guide for wehicles and where they're made.  notice many foreign auto companies have "off-shored" a lot of the work to america.  but at least here, there are reasonable safety/enwironmental standards, etc., and the workers are paid more than subsistence wages...
> 
> 
> http://www.howtobuyamerican.com/content/db/b-db-autos.shtml
> 
> ymmv,
> 
> doug s.,
> #2602
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