[DeTomaso] unions?

Sun Oct 30 21:08:27 EDT 2011

Neither will I, even if the CTS V Wagon is badass.

Michael
On Oct 30, 2011 9:01 PM, "GW" <gow2 at rc-tech.net> wrote:

> I know I will never buy another GM car; EVER!
>
> michael at michaelshortt.com wrote:
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>> Here Here, excellent Bill.
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>> Michael
>> On Oct 30, 2011 8:49 PM, "Bill Lewis" <lotus0005 at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>> One small point here is that, assuming that you are true, Doug S., that
>>> corporations right now are making too much money, and corporate officers
>>> are way too highly paid - maybe ALL things work in a circle; point being
>>> that when unions first came into being they were actually needed to
>>> prevent
>>> deaths, child labor, etc., but then as they matured and found out how to
>>> put more money in their pocket they became fat, greedy hogs.  Maybe
>>> corporations have now done this.  I think that as long as they can do
>>> this,
>>> why not - but I do agree with you that government money (our/my taxes)
>>> should not be involved.  I would have rather seen GM go under.  A little
>>> pain would have caused folks to wake up (both the unions and the white
>>> collars).  Ah, but, alas, contemporary people have fairly short memories,
>>> and history does repeat itself.  The bad stuff will all come back around
>>> in
>>> 50/100 years, etc.  And, let me add my favorite rant:  nothing will
>>> change
>>> for the good until laws with BIG, SHARP teeth are passed regulating
>>> lobbyists and politicians!!!!!!!!       ----Bill Lewis
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:00:47 -0700
>>>> From: sedond at yahoo.com
>>>> To: gow2 at rc-tech.net
>>>> CC: detomaso at realbig.com
>>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] unions?  (was:  Re:  Something to shoot for (NPC))
>>>>
>>>> it is not the unions that are causing the problem w/companies' greed and
>>>>
>>>>
>>> their going off-shore.  what is wrong w/the idea that an honest working
>>> class blue collar worker can support a family on a decent wage?  unions
>>> made this possible.  the problem we are having is that the federal
>>> government deregulation has allowed companies to move offshore, cutting
>>> their costs substantially, while keeping the prices of the products the
>>> same.  great for the rich stockholders and ceo's, screw everyone else.
>>>  if
>>> these companies were regulated so as to not be able to reap the profits
>>> of
>>> slave-wage-rate labor, no off-shore safety/enwironmental regulation,
>>> etc.;
>>> then there would not have been such a huge exodus of american
>>> manufacturing
>>> to third-world countries.
>>>
>>>
>>>> interesting article, tracking the fate of america's middle class, and
>>>>
>>>>
>>> its unions:
>>>    http://talkingunion.wordpress.**com/2011/08/03/decline-in-**
>>> unions-a-leading-factor-in-**income-inequality/<http://talkingunion.wordpress.com/2011/08/03/decline-in-unions-a-leading-factor-in-income-inequality/>
>>>
>>>
>>>> regarding ceo's being overpaid, i support, where possible, buying from
>>>>
>>>>
>>> non-american companies, who use american labor.  non-american companies
>>> typically pay their ceo's ~30 times what their average workers earn;
>>> w/american companies this figure is more like 300 times the salary of the
>>> average worker.  here's a guide for wehicles and where they're made.
>>>  notice many foreign auto companies have "off-shored" a lot of the work
>>> to
>>> america.  but at least here, there are reasonable safety/enwironmental
>>> standards, etc., and the workers are paid more than subsistence wages...
>>>
>>>
>>>> http://www.howtobuyamerican.**com/content/db/b-db-autos.**shtml<http://www.howtobuyamerican.com/content/db/b-db-autos.shtml>
>>>>
>>>> ymmv,
>>>>
>>>> doug s.,
>>>> #2602
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