[DeTomaso] Clutch problems

[bill gaino]

 How about return resistance?  Can you move the arm connected to the slave with pliers? There should be BIG return pressure from the plate springs. I have tried to move my arm, and can only do it with the hyd slave force.  Perhaps a tool fell inside the bell? Do you have an open area?   Be careful.... I let my clutch get wet while I had the trans out. I figured it was stuck to the flywheel...it was....... I started the car in gear and dogged it...hoping to free the disc..... I shattered!  looked like bird feathers and when I took it apart peices were still stuck to the fly...Call the AC shop...maybe they have a idea...they had it last..??  How fresh is the clutch?   Bill

-----Original Message-----
>From: tmshinro at aol.com
>Sent: Jun 30, 2011 6:34 PM
>To: detomaso at realbig.com
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Clutch problems
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> I drove the car home with no signs of problems.
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com>
>To: bill gaino <gaino at earthlink.net>
>Cc: tmshinro <tmshinro at aol.com>; detomaso <detomaso at realbig.com>
>Sent: Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:17 pm
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Clutch problems
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>Was the AC shop the last to drive it??
>dave
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>On 6/30/2011 3:07 PM, bill gaino wrote:
>> Possibly the fingers are gone? and the TO bearing is getting past, maybe the 
>shaft has broken?  Are there pins there? or set screws? Any loosness of the 
>shaft that holds the bearing retainer?  I have had discs stick from sitting, but 
>you just drove your car..What style pressure plate are you using? The original, 
>and the Mclod use 3 fingers. My ceterforce has many flat spring fingers..  If 
>the shaft is turning that goes in the side of the ZF, and is does not 
>disengauge, Get ready to pull the tranny.... Bill 1362
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>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: tmshinro at aol.com
>>> Sent: Jun 30, 2011 3:57 PM
>>> To: detomaso at realbig.com
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Clutch problems
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>>> Well, I get my car back yesterday from having the A/C serviced so I can enjoy 
>some cool(er) Pantera fun this summer.   The plan was to wire my A/C pressure 
>switch and put the bulkhead and passenger seat back in the car today.
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>>> When I went to start it, I pushed in the clutch pedal and was met with some 
>heavier than normal resistance which resulted in my pushing a little harder (not 
>out of line with normal practice).  I heard a snap or pop followed by minimal 
>pedal resistance.  Subsequent attempts to push the pedal have minimal 
>resistance.   I felt the snap through the pedal and my first thought was that 
>the master cylinder seals were stuck in the bore (just replace the m/c and slave 
>last summer).   I pushed the pedal down and attempted to start the car with the 
>transmission in gear and the car lurched when the starter engaged.
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>>> I had a helper push the pedal while I watched the slave.   To my surprise I 
>was getting full movement of the clutch arm at the slave.   I looked in the 
>inspection hole of the ZF and saw that there was only the slightest movement of 
>the pressure plate when the slave was at full stroke.   I also noticed that I 
>had a lot of movement at the clutch arm when I put a crescent wrench and pulled 
>on it where before I only had minimal free play.
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>>> I thought I post to the list to get any and all ideas on what I should be 
>looking for before I start trying to figure it out.
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>>> Obviously I'm bummed out since I can't play with it this weekend to see how 
>good the A/C works (with a heat index of 104 it would have been good weather to 
>test).
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>>> Thanks for your input.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>> #5186
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