[DeTomaso] Clutch problems

Thu Jun 30 21:44:09 EDT 2011

I had similiar symptoms in my car. My clutch was old and had sat for sme time. Thesprings in the pressure plate broke and fell out and got wedge in the clutch keeping it engaged. I had to start the car in second to drive it home. I replaced the clutch, pressure plate and throw out bearing to fix it.

Good luck,

Ed....

From: bill gaino <gaino at earthlink.net>
To: tmshinro at aol.com; detomaso at realbig.com
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Clutch problems

How about return resistance?  Can you move the arm connected to the slave with pliers? There should be BIG return pressure from the plate springs. I have tried to move my arm, and can only do it with the hyd slave force.  Perhaps a tool fell inside the bell? Do you have an open area?   Be careful.... I let my clutch get wet while I had the trans out. I figured it was stuck to the flywheel...it was....... I started the car in gear and dogged it...hoping to free the disc..... I shattered!  looked like bird feathers and when I took it apart peices were still stuck to the fly...Call the AC shop...maybe they have a idea...they had it last..??  How fresh is the clutch?   Bill

-----Original Message-----
>From: tmshinro at aol.com
>Sent: Jun 30, 2011 6:34 PM
>To: detomaso at realbig.com
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Clutch problems
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> I drove the car home with no signs of problems.
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com>
>To: bill gaino <gaino at earthlink.net>
>Cc: tmshinro <tmshinro at aol.com>; detomaso <detomaso at realbig.com>
>Sent: Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:17 pm
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Clutch problems
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>Was the AC shop the last to drive it??
>dave
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>On 6/30/2011 3:07 PM, bill gaino wrote:
>> Possibly the fingers are gone? and the TO bearing is getting past, maybe the 
>shaft has broken?  Are there pins there? or set screws? Any loosness of the 
>shaft that holds the bearing retainer?  I have had discs stick from sitting, but 
>you just drove your car..What style pressure plate are you using? The original, 
>and the Mclod use 3 fingers. My ceterforce has many flat spring fingers..  If 
>the shaft is turning that goes in the side of the ZF, and is does not 
>disengauge, Get ready to pull the tranny.... Bill 1362
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>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: tmshinro at aol.com
>>> Sent: Jun 30, 2011 3:57 PM
>>> To: detomaso at realbig.com
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Clutch problems
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>>> Well, I get my car back yesterday from having the A/C serviced so I can enjoy 
>some cool(er) Pantera fun this summer.   The plan was to wire my A/C pressure 
>switch and put the bulkhead and passenger seat back in the car today.
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>>> When I went to start it, I pushed in the clutch pedal and was met with some 
>heavier than normal resistance which resulted in my pushing a little harder (not 
>out of line with normal practice).  I heard a snap or pop followed by minimal 
>pedal resistance.  Subsequent attempts to push the pedal have minimal 
>resistance.   I felt the snap through the pedal and my first thought was that 
>the master cylinder seals were stuck in the bore (just replace the m/c and slave 
>last summer).   I pushed the pedal down and attempted to start the car with the 
>transmission in gear and the car lurched when the starter engaged.
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>>> I had a helper push the pedal while I watched the slave.   To my surprise I 
>was getting full movement of the clutch arm at the slave.   I looked in the 
>inspection hole of the ZF and saw that there was only the slightest movement of 
>the pressure plate when the slave was at full stroke.   I also noticed that I 
>had a lot of movement at the clutch arm when I put a crescent wrench and pulled 
>on it where before I only had minimal free play.
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>>> I thought I post to the list to get any and all ideas on what I should be 
>looking for before I start trying to figure it out.
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>>> Obviously I'm bummed out since I can't play with it this weekend to see how 
>good the A/C works (with a heat index of 104 it would have been good weather to 
>test).
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>>> Thanks for your input.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>> #5186
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