[DeTomaso] Big Problem with POCA's Election Process!

msm at portata.com msm at portata.com
Mon Dec 12 01:30:57 EST 2011 

On-line or email-based vote would be easy to set up, however the POCA by-laws need to be rewritten to allow that.


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From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On Behalf Of Will Kooiman
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 8:24 PM
To: 'DeTomaso Forum'
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Big Problem with POCA's Election Process!

I like the idea of setting up an online ballot.

It would improve voter turnout, and it should be easier to count too.

The paper ballots could remain for those that don't want to mess with computers.

We could even put it on......  the POCA website.  What a thought.

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From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On Behalf Of michael at michaelshortt.com
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 7:18 PM
To: DeTomaso Forum
Subject: [DeTomaso] Big Problem with POCA's Election Process!

WHAT!  YOU'RE CLAIMING A 12.5% VOTER RATE AS ACCEPTABLE.

This why I'm not a member.

US PRESIDENTIAL voter turnout is almost always from 50-60% of registered voters.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_the_United_States_presidenti
al_elections

Wake up, it's 2011, it's simple, set up a ballot like a survey on a FREE service like Survey Monkey, verify voters by email addresses, give them a
24 hour window to vote, you can easily send out a series of email blasts to announce the voting date.

Michael Shortt

On Dec 11, 2011 7:36 PM, "pantera928" <pantera928 at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> Laurie
> C'mon. The percentage of people that vote for the President of the 
> United
Ststes is not much better than that. Seriously, you probably have a point but I could not help but think that voter turn out for any type of election is terrible.
> Greg
>
> --- On Sun, 12/11/11, LaurieFerrari at aol.com <LaurieFerrari at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: LaurieFerrari at aol.com <LaurieFerrari at aol.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Big Problem with POCA's Election Process!
> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> Date: Sunday, December 11, 2011, 3:07 PM
>
>
>
> In my humble opinion there is a very large problem  with POCA's voting 
> process.  I became quite aware of this when I ran  for President a few
years
> back.  Out of the nearly 1000 members and  along with their 
> associates,
there
> should be nearly 2000 votes if  all had voted.  When I ran, if memory
serves,
> only about 250 votes  total for the entire club, split between Joe 
> Moore, John Taphorn and  myself.  Dr. Chuck Engles can correct these 
> figures if
not
> exact  but I'm sure he can attest to the fact that,  traditionally, a 
> VERY LOW PERCENTAGE of votes come in!  Why  were there only 100-200 
> members voting??? Well.. because the process is  flawed.  A ballot 
> should be
CLEARLY
> provided to all members  in a TIMELY FASHION, on a separate sheet or
mailing,
> other than embedded in  a magazine that's delivery date is non dependable.
> Additionally,  many might not read each Newsletter cover to cover upon
arrival
> and the  ballot is overlooked by many of the voting public.
Seriously.....at
> very  least, the front cover of the Newsletter should make a big note, 
> "Voting  Ballot Enclosed This Month".... but since that is not even
sufficient
> as so  many do not receive their Newsletter in time. The ultimate and
best
> way is to mail out a separate ballot (or post card) for  voting purposes.
> It's worth the expenditure.  Or, at no  cost, have an ON LINE BALLOT.
> Something needs to be done so that  members are made aware of 
> candidates,
the time
> for voting, and not  stuck with officers who gain position in ways 
> that
are
> not valid  due to an antiquated and inferior voting system.
> On that note... Happy Holidays and best of luck to  all.
> p.s. If you want a redheaded secretary, write me in.  :  ))) Laurie
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> ____________________________________
> >
> > remember that if you vote for me , there will be one less "Gray" to 
> > kick around
>
>
>    In reference to my quote listed above.........one can substitute 'Les"
> for "less"  and see that it actually means  "there will be one LES 
> Gray to kick around" ( if elected) ...........................  and 
> the hair
thing . .
> . . . . . . . . . .  I do have a full head of hair but  I don't think 
> I would look good as a blond or red head  so you've got me there  Judy !!!!!
>
>
>
>             As Judy stated, the most important thing is that you vote 
> during this or any election. You can't complain about the leadership 
> if
you
> choose not to get involved in the selection process !!!!
>
>
>
>          Les Gray
>
>
>
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