[DeTomaso] cooling fans

[Bill Lewis]

"Back To The Future (30's - 40's)"



> From: larry at ohiotimecorp.com
> To: cengles at cox.net; no To-header on input
> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 10:16:02 -0400
> CC: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] cooling fans
> 
> <<Oklahoma had the HIGHEST daily temperature for July of anywhere in the
> USA>>
> 
> The new Death Valley??
> 
> Larry (HotIn)-Cleveland
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
> Behalf Of cengles at cox.net
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] cooling fans
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> 
> Dear Mr. Bronco,
> 
> It should be noted that Oklahoma had the HIGHEST daily temperature for July
> of anywhere in the USA. Due to mechanical maladies in the Engles' Family
> Automotive Fleet, my wife appropriated my car and I was forced to drive the
> Pantera in the furnace like heat for two weeks.
> I drove both Panteras. Both have the same fifteen year old brass radiators.
> Both have Meriah fans. One has 385 hp and the other one has 485 hp. In the
> hellacious afternoon heat on the trip home with ambient air temperatures
> commonly showing 110 degrees, both Panteras showed that they were running
> hotter than the usual rock solid 190. They ran perhaps ten degrees hotter in
> suburban city traffic.. They did not overheat. Interstate driving showed
> normal 190 degrees.
> No hood vents. No sucker fans. To paraphrase Mike L. Drew, it can be done
> rather simply.
> 
> It is a bit warm here, Chuck Engles
> 
> 
> ---- MikeLDrew at aol.com wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 8/9/11 19 33 46, broncony at yahoo.com writes:
> >
> >
> > > what works, what doesn't for cooling fans.
> > > I have a stock 1972, pre L, fluidyne radiator in stock position. I need
> to
> > > upgrade the cooling fans.
> > >
> >
> > Hit the EASY button. Several of the vendors sell Meriah fans which fit in
> > the stock location. (Some of them will even sell used ones, cheaply, as
> > they are busy selling high-powered sucker fans, the latest fad).
> >
> > The Meriah pushers move plenty of air and are a great improvement over the
> > stock fans. They work better (spin faster) if the fan circuit is modified
> > to provide a clearer current path, including grounding the fans at the
> body
> > with diodes (rather than using the stock ground wires which loop all the
> way
> > back under the dash).
> >
> > Here are some links to some new fans. They're expensive new!
> >
> > http://precisionproformance.com/cs1031.php
> >
> > http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&
> > item=20271
> >
> > You find them on E-bay from time to time; my girlfriend got a used set
> from
> > Wilkinson for a song, $80 or something like that I think.
> >
> > Another alternative is the Flex-A-Lite dual sucker fan package.
> >
> > http://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-410/
> >
> > By happy coincidence this setup fits perfectly behind a stock Pantera
> > radiator. However, the stock radiator inlet and outlet pipes have a
> 90-degree
> > angle so the hoses sit right against the back side of the radiator; they
> have
> > to be modified with straight necks so that 90-degree rubber hoses can be
> > used. I think the Fluidyne radiator has straight necks however?
> >
> > You'd have to ensure that the fan shroud was mounted properly, meaning NOT
> > with the included zip ties which just pass through the fins of the
> radiator,
> > and act like little saws to cut holes in the tubes and ruin it. You'd
> > want to fabricate brackets to mount the fan shroud to the back of the
> radiator.
> > You'd also want to re-wire the circuit as per the above.
> >
> > An article on rewiring the fans (and headlights) can be found at
> > www.panteraplace.com. Although I'm credited with writing it, I did NOT
> come up with
> > the idea; instead I packaged other people's (great) ideas into a single
> > article.
> >
> > Both my girlfriend and I have the Meriah pusher fans in our Panteras, and
> > both of them resolutely refuse to overheat--and that's with no BS hood
> vents
> > or any other tricks. Just a good, solid radiator, Meriah fans, properly
> > tuned engines, decent water pumps, and (most important) thorough bleeding
> to
> > eliminate all trapped air from the system.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > Mike
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