[DeTomaso] harness bar.

[Asa Jay Laughton]

Check me on this but the purpose of that belt is to hold the waist belts in the proper position.  If used properly, the anti-sub belt simply keeps the waist belts down over your hips which should prevent you from sliding under.  Without it, the pressure on the shoulder belts as you move forward will pull up on the waist belts and allow you to slide under.


Perhpas wearing a cup and a six point strap would help those who were less cautious about proper belt use.

Asa Jay 
<really no experience >

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-----Original Message-----
From: boyd casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
Sender: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
Date:	Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:34:39 
To: <michael at michaelshortt.com>
Cc: LarryFinch<fresnofinches at aol.com>; <detomaso at realbig.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] harness bar.

There was a post around 6 months ago where two guys driving in a Ralley car
the driver and navigator were wearing 5 point harnesses and they weren't
tight enough. The two guys were in excruciating pain and the ambulance
drivers couldn't understand why they were in so much pain. It turns out the
submarine belt was too loose and as the two guys slid forward the pressure
caused their testicles to pop through their scrotum's on either side of the
submarine belt. They had photographs . It was really gross! both guys had
their testicles squeezed out of their scrotum's and were hanging out by
their vasa deferentia.

Here it is I found it again. Department of Surgery Morriston Hospital.
"Scrotal Injury Following Restrained Impact:
 A Risk of Misnavigation"
Here is a link to the scientific journal and the photos. WARNING!!! This is
not for those with weak stomachs or children.

Link: Follow the bouncing
balls<http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=MImg&_imagekey=B7CRN-4N9MYWG-1-9&_cdi=17999&_user=10&_orig=search&_coverDate=09%2F30%2F2007&_sk=999619990&view=c&wchp=dGLbVlz-zSkWz&_valck=1&md5=b4ba370c5948b24a9d5b23e21239ef7d&ie=/sdarticle.pdf>


Boyd

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 7:56 PM, michael at michaelshortt.com <
michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:

> Larry,
>
> Clearly you have never worn either and come to a sudden or abrupt stop.
>
> Shall we say that the "Boys" were never meant to be used as "anti G
> Devices".
>
> In a hard accident, you will find that belts are never tight enough, it is
> not uncommon to have black and blue
>
> bruising ( which turns a sickly shade of yellow ) or  ecchymosis caused by
> traumatized/broken capillaries under the skin
>
> in the groin, collarbones and across the hipbones.
>
> I hope you never find out.
>
> Michael Shortt
>
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 7:19 PM, LarryFinch <fresnofinches at aol.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >  Interesting.
> >
> > I can think of no reason why a 4-5-6 point harness would introduce any
> > additional injury risk in an otherwise stock vehicle.
> >
> > Holding you in place is the purpose of the OEM seat /shoulder belt
> systems.
> >
> > Replacing the stock system with a 4-5-6 point harness would just do a
> > better job of holding you in place.
> >
> > So where is the problem?
> >
> > my 2¢
> >
> > Larry
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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