[DeTomaso] FAST EFI
Mad Dog Antenucci
teampantera at yahoo.com
Thu Jul 22 11:26:00 EDT 2010
Good advise Dick....I'll add that if you spend your hard earned cash for a new
engine and induction system do 'not' take any tuners word for it that he knows
what he is doing unless you know and have talked to your engine
builders customers who have in fact used the same guy to tune your induction
system. Mike Trusty found me a guy who lived in Sunset Beach who was also
recommended by Eltromotive as a Tech 3R expert.
Years ago I went through 3 tuners who were all supposed to be Weber tuners. I
had a race prepared '69 Jag E-type...the first 3 guys all had good reputations
as tuners but none of them could balance and tune the Weber induction system...
I finally found someone who lived around the corner from my brother in Seattle
who got that last 5-10% tune dialed in. he was retired and as it turned out had
wrenched on Shelby Cobra's in the 60's and his garage was filled with Webers
and intakes.
There are some good photo's of the Mike Trusty efi system on the TPR web site.
Team Pantera Racing
The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing
www.teampanteraracing.com
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From: Dick Koch <arkoch at earthlink.net>
Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Thu, July 22, 2010 7:06:52 AM
Subject: [DeTomaso] FAST EFI
FWIW, for a mild street engine (under 500 hp), the Powerjection setup
may satisfy your requirements for affordability and performance. For a
novice mechanically inclined person, with some experience in tuning an
engine, this unit may be fun to play with. However the old adage, "You
get what you pay for" holds true with this unit.
At SEMA last year, Garry Grimes (our engine builder Grimes Twister
Engines) spoke to the Powerjection folks and decided to evaluate their
units for a couple of projects on which we were working. In his testing
he found that the "windows" of variables which are available to tune the
system are limited (as in comparison to the FAST or Electromotive systems).
If you are looking for streetable 500 hp or above performance, the
Powerjection III system throttle body (750cfm with 52 lb/hr injectors)
is too small. You will have to opt for the larger components if available.
The components of the Powerjection system looked "cheap" compared to the
components we use on engines that we guarantee. When we were doing dyno
testing on a mule engine, one of the units failed. We had to order a
new one to complete our evaluation.
Also, consider yourself lucky if you can find somebody to talk to if you
need help. We couldn't. I would suggest trying to call their technical
support before you buy to see if they have improved (really made
available) their "support".
If you are evaluating EFI and ignition control engine management
systems, take the advice of others that have posted on this subject and
find a "tuner" locally which you can trust, and get their opinion on
what to buy, with of course getting references and costs they would
charge for their services. There are a lot of "jack legs" out there
that profess to be experts, so do your due diligence before you commit.
Dick Koch - Atlanta
Garth Rodericks wrote:
> Check out the latest issue of Mustang Monthly (August 2010). There's a
> "Carburetor to EFI: Easy Fuel Injection Swap" article in which they install a
> Powerjection III EFI system on a 351C in a 70 Mach1.
>
> https://www.circsource.com/images/mags/mustangmonthly/osc_coverimage0_210w.jpg
>
> Sounds like a nice system.
>
> Cheers!
> Garth
>
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> This is for my 70 MACH1 which I want to make look as original as possible.
> Port injection would be too obvious and the large Ford OEM air cleaner will
> mostly cover the thottle body injected EZ-EFI model from FAST. It's good to
> hear that people are having success with the FAST line of EFI
>
>
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