[DeTomaso] Convention ideas

Thu Aug 19 01:32:57 EDT 2010

Agreed most Pantera owners (except a core of true diehards) will not travel long distance for purely a track event. IMO the synergies between the Fun Rally + track event should not be under estimated and the Fun Rally has evolved with both for some years to cater for 'young and old' alike. The track participation in years past speaks for itself and it was estimated by some that up to 30 people did not attend the Reno event this year due to no track. IMO the best way to test if that is true is to give Reno at least one more year with the track and see how attendance is before passing final judgement. That said I would also not advocate that the Fun Rally stay in Reno for the next 25 years, mainly becaue by then I'll be old enough to need to be somewhere else so I can bitch about how good Reno was 25 years ago.

BTW the track is back in full swing and even has a new more modern website http://www.renofernleyracetrack.com/ They seem to have a rapidly filling calendar of events/track rental dates, all good news for us locals adn PCNC next year.

Like they say you can "never please all of the people all the time" and I recognize there are a large proportion of 'maturer' Pantera owners who want nothing more than to reminisce about events past in the hospitality suite. Well the hospitality suite in both venues has no windows, so it really don't matter where you are; the beers free, the snacks plentiful and did you hear about the time we had 800 Pantera's lining Fremont St?

On the other hand I hear Palm Springs is a nice community and has lots of capacity with wide roads for street drags between the overly long red lights.

See ya next year wherever.... as long as there's a track involved.

Nomex donned :>)
Julian

> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:35:33 -0700
> From: forestg at att.net
> To: msm at portata.com; LaurieFerrari at aol.com; Detomaso at realbig.com; MikeLDrew at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Convention ideas
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> Mark,
> My take is that the first year in Reno we gained attendance from a number of NW 
> and Northern California people who came for the first time but they will not be 
> regulars. They have now "been there done that" and I don't think you will get 
> many as repeat attendees.
> If you all remember the fun rally started as a social event and track was not a 
> part of it. Sure you will lose some attendance without the track event but I 
> feel that this is a small percentage of participants and as you saw this year 
> most of the people came even without the track event. It is just my opinion but 
> if you want to really see what the track event draws try holding just a track 
> event and see how many show up. My guess is less than a dozen.
> Forest
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> To: "LaurieFerrari at aol.com" <LaurieFerrari at aol.com>; "Detomaso at realbig.com" 
> <Detomaso at realbig.com>; "MikeLDrew at aol.com" <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Convention ideas
> 
> The short answer is that no site has been selected for 2011.
> 
> The plan is that we will collect info about the various sites, publish the info 
> so that people can make an informed decision, then put out a survey to collect 
> opinions.  Naturally, there is the plan and then there is the reality.  The 
> reality is that I am way, way behind.  (Yeah, that sounds like a broken record.)
> 
> Anyway, there are upsides and downsides to the various cities and venues.  As 
> was just pointed out, San Diego is a very nice city and is well located for the 
> mass of west-coast Pantera owners.  The downside is that there is no track and 
> that the hotel and convention costs are likely to be substantially higher.
> 
> To clear up the attendance issue -- when we moved from LV to Reno, attendance 
> actually went up.  This year it went down a bit to everyone's surprise given the 
> enthusiasm in 2009.  There are a number of possible reasons for the drop off 
> such as the economy and the lack of a track event.  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On 
> Behalf Of LaurieFerrari at aol.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 1:52 PM
> To: Detomaso at realbig.com; MikeLDrew at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Convention ideas
> 
> There you have it. I compliment myself on making the effort to attend;  
> what's this "late" BS?  If the event were closer I would have had my  beautiful 
> Pantera with me. Let's really be serious. Why not take  a true unbiased 
> survey and judge how many would attend with or without their  cars if the event 
> were to be in SD.  The actual  statistics should be considered. 
> L.
> 
> 
> In a message dated 8/18/2010 1:33:01 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
> MikeLDrew at aol.com writes:
> 
> >>>That's because you showed up two days late!  Even  though PCNC didn't 
> stage a formal track event, quite a few Fun Rally attendees  drove out to the 
> track (30 minutes) and had their own private track day on  Friday!  You 
> could have gone too, but you were in  LA...:>)
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