[DeTomaso] New engine

Fri Aug 6 21:03:27 EDT 2010

You GM performance is now selling the LS9 super charger that bolts right up
to the LS 3 and you can ad another 150 hp. The retail cost of the super
charger is around $6400.00 you cant touch the horsepower gain and weight
savings for the money I think if you shave off 205 lbs and have 700 hp at
the rear wheels with coil on cylinder ignition You willl have a bullet proof
motror that will blow the doors of anything with a red line of 7200 to 7500
rpm I don't think you are goin to hurt the resale. In fact I think you are
going to gve it a big boost. A Pantera is a mish mosh of parts. When ford
first colaborated with Detomaso they raided every parts bin they had. If you
are looking to build the lighest fastest most reliable sports car does
anyone really care what brand name is on the various parts?
Boyd

On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Haas, John <john at haasline.com> wrote:

> Jack mentioned running into this conversion last month in the POCA
> newsletter. I'm fascinated by the thought as the Z06 package is light,
> small, powerful and sorted.
> Here are some notes I've gathered since from different sources
> :
> Scott Bell Z06 Pantera
> I guess the hardest part was turning the intake around. There was an oil
> sender boss that needed to be milled off and plugged so the intake could be
> reversed.
>
> The other item was making a new cross member.
>
> But to be honest, it was a pretty easy swap.
> The motor is an LS376/480 crate motor. 6.2 Liter All Aluminum V8. It is
> based on the LS3 Corvette motor but has a hot cam installed. It has 10.7:1
> compression and has 480HP at 5750RPM. It has 475(lb-ft) of torque at
> 4500RPM.
>
> What is cool about this motor is the amount of torque it has. It pulls
> strong in every gear. It has 400(lb-ft) of torque at 2500RPM.
>
> I can be rolling at 10MPH and give it half throttle and it breaks the tires
> loose.
>
> It is so much more fun to drive then it was before.
>
> I can run an almost flat firewall and access to every part of the motor is
> much better.
>
> Part of the benefits of this package is the front drive that included a
> 150AMP Alternator that is controlled by the computer.
> Put almost 200 miles on the car this weekend. Not a single problem.
>
> The car runs so cool the computer doesn't even turn on the radiator fans
> for
> almost the entire drive.
>
> The torque of this motor is incredible. And it runs like a factory 2010
> car.
>
> I also added a nice stereo system with a 160watt amp and an Ipod interface.
> Next I will be building a flat firewall.
>
> The crate motor was about $6500. The drive, Electronics, Bellhousing, Fuel
> Pump, Flywheel, Clutch, Starter, etc... was about $3000.00.
>
> For me it worked out good as I had about a $2000.00 bill to repair the
> 351C.
> I ended up selling most of the good parts I didn't need from the old setup
> for almost $3000.00 so my net out-of-pocket cost for the swap was less than
> $5000.00.
> quote:
> You know how much weight you saved over the rear wheels too?
>
>
> The crate motor was advertised at 410lbs. I am not sure how much the 351C
> is
> but it must be in excess of 700lbs if you include headers to Air cleaner.
>
> .       Yes, I used the Kennedy Adapter. It was $350.00.
> .       catman351
> 2 months ago
> @Z06Pantera
> BTW, great choice again! It looks like you used a Kennedy Enterprises
> transaxle adaptor.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgU_S5Wr7yw
>
> Pictures:
>
> http://s1008.photobucket.com/albums/af207/Z06_Pantera/Z06%20Pantera/?action=
> view&current=DSCN1199.jpg
>
> Page 66-67 in GM catalog
> Here is a list short list of what was needed:
>
> LS376/480 Crate Motor
> Engine Management System with Engine Harness (comes with drive by wire
> pedal)
> Engine Drive System (Comes with 150amp ECM controlled Alternator and AC
> Pump)
> LS to ZF Bellhousing
> Fuel Injection Fuel Pump
> Flywheel
> Clutch
> Starter
>
> Stuff to Fabricate are:
> Exhaust
> Motor Mounts
> Removable Cross Member
>
> Of course, there is a small list of other small items that also needs to be
> done.
> quote:
> May I ask how much $ that went in this engine swap?
>
>
> The crate motor was about $6500. The drive, Electronics, Bellhousing, Fuel
> Pump, Flywheel, Clutch, Starter, etc... was about $3000.00.
>
> For me it worked out good as I had about a $2000.00 bill to repair the
> 351C.
> I ended up selling most of the good parts I didn't need from the old setup
> for almost $3000.00 so my net out-of-pocket cost for the swap was less than
> $5000.00.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
> On
> Behalf Of michael frazier
> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 3:31 PM
> To: pantera list
> Subject: [DeTomaso] New engine
>
>
> All the late Ford engines are huge and complicated.  The GM LS engines can
> be had complete with more horses, more torque, smaller overall dimensions
> and
> 100 lbs lighter for the same $$$ or less.  I hear of a few conversions that
> were/are being done by individuals and some vendors.  Does anybody have
> more
> details?
> The only report I saw recently had a car that was so "Ricer" looking
> overall
> that you could miss the engine swap.  Mike Trusty?  Guys in Europe?  If the
> Cleveland
> ever comes out, this is the only swap I'd consider.
>
> Michael Frazier
> Gruppo Rompiculi Corsa
>
>
>
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