[DeTomaso] Lots of cars for sale - '86 GT5-S

Sun Mar 22 21:47:14 EDT 2009

Is this not the previous car that the blind guy owned and wrecked nearly every day?   Looks like the same car I heard one of you talking about and the guy that drove it around blind thing with lots of damage sticks out in my memory.

CW

> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:55:26 -0700
> From: kevin at jmadv.com
> To: deTomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Lots of cars for sale - '86 GT5-S
> 
> If anyone is actually serious about this car they should contact
> Richard Merritt at the DOT 202-366-5300 BEFORE purchasing.
> He will be able to look at the records and tell you if the EPA/DOT paperwork
> is filed and correct for this car. Even send you copies if needed.
> 
> Dick, a real car guy by the way, was helpful when I recently got a
> California BAR sticker for my gray market '83 512BBi Boxer.
> If you want to see your state tax dollars at their most efficient try going
> through that process!
> 
> Murph
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > From: Kirk Evans <kre at adelphia.net>
> > Date:  Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:25:15 -0400
> > To: <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, <mbefthomas at comcast.net>, <rimov at charter.net>,
> > <deTomaso at realbig.com>
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Lots of cars for sale - '86 GT5-S
> > 
> > Mike,
> > 
> > I saw pictures of this car several years ago and it was un-touched---no US
> > bumpers, marker lights were not installed, un-touched e-vap system and no
> > catalytic converts just from the pictures.  If the car has both EPA and DOT
> > releases that's good---I just find it hard to believe that the work was
> > completed and would be interested in knowing the who-what-when-where on the
> > conversion work. 
> > 
> > Older direct imports were privately imported and all had to go through DOT.
> > You could bring in a one time exempt from EPA as an individual through the
> > 80s. I believe that one time exempt reg has been changed..
> > 
> > In the old days, there were several shops---one in particular in
> > California---that could EPA pass a 747 fully loaded at take off and  guarantee
> > the crash integrity of a south boarder built piñata Ferrari.
> > 
> > If there is proper paper work, it should be good to go BUT make sure the trail
> > is real and not serial numbers changed on copies of copies of copies. Don't
> > mean to sound cynical but it's my many years of Pantera conversion work along
> > with the times we live in today make me wonder of such scrupulous things my
> > friend.
> > 
> > Kirk
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: MikeLDrew at aol.com
> >   To: kre at adelphia.net ; mbefthomas at comcast.net ; rimov at charter.net ;
> > deTomaso at realbig.com
> >   Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 3:56 PM
> >   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Lots of cars for sale - '86 GT5-S
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   In a message dated 3/21/09 10 47 18, kre at adelphia.net writes:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >     Unless someone has converted (DOT-EPA) that yellow car in the last year,
> > it has never been done, OR it was converted and all of the original parts were
> > re-installed back to Euro specks-----hard to believe----I would like to be a
> > ninja some day but most likely that will never happen.
> > 
> > 
> >>>> HAHAHA!!!  This car was privately imported and DOT/EPA certified.  In fact
> >>>> he has photos of the paperwork showing at the bottom of his auction.
> > 
> > 
> >> I would venture to say it was driven over the border from Canada and found a
> >> home in a state where the custom release paperwork is not an issue. I think
> >> it would be impossible to register in California---do not know about the
> >> other 49---most states once you have a title do not require the paper trail.
> > 
> > 
> >>>> It would be an uphill battle in California, for sure, but the other 49
> >>>> states are probably no problem, especially since it's already successfully
> >>>> negotiated the DOT and EPA hoops and has been registered in Virginia (and
> >>>> now Florida) for years.
> > 
> > 
> >> Most of the direct import car "smart guys" from US customs have moved on
> >> since the import regulations changed BUT if an agent that knows what is
> >> required for a conversion sees this car---like at a show---he could pull it
> >> on site and the owner would play hell getting it back. Just an FYI for those
> >> who may be looking.
> > 
> > 
> >>>> Again--it's already been done.
> > 
> > 
> >     At this point with our sprint  towards socialism (more like warp drive)
> > and deficits/debts so large our children's, children's, children's, children's
> > children will not be able to pay them back, I doubt if a Pantera's import
> > paper work is an issue for anyone in the government.
> > 
> > 
> >>>> HAHAHA!
> > 
> >   This is a fairly well-known car.  It looks nice but is reportedly very rough
> > underneath when you look at it closely.  It was for sale in Virginia for
> > years, and Andy DiFatta (who owned #4220 until he sold it to Jim Wallace, PONE
> > president) tried for a year and a half to buy it.  It was at a dealership,
> > he'd make an appointment to go see it, drive from Connecticut to Virginia,
> > only to find the dealership closed for the day!  He finally made arrangements
> > to buy it, and then the seller (an old man) changed his mind....
> > 
> >   Anyway, it eventually found its way to California, where it is currently
> > owned by a guy named Bruce Adair in Richmond (East Bay, San Francisco area).
> > I first saw the car, and met him, in Monterey a few years ago.  He had his
> > 9-months-pregnant wife in the car at the time!
> > 
> >   He has been trying to sell it on Craigslist for more than a year; the fact
> > that it probably can't be registered in California is probably working against
> > him.
> > 
> >   The auction says that it's a divorce sale. :<(
> > 
> >   I would budget a fair bit for bodywork/upholstery on this car.  It may not
> > be rusty (I don't know about that at all), but I think the front valance is a
> > bit hammered, the leather seats have completely died, and the condition of the
> > car (last time I saw it) was basically 'driver rough', etc.  It looks better
> > in the photos; maybe the paint just needed a good detailing.
> > 
> >   In any case, it will sell for something between the current bid of $53K and
> > the buy-it-now price of $59K, which would make it a reasonable deal in my
> > opinion.
> > 
> >   Mike
> > 
> > 
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