[DeTomaso] Insurance--Was Fw: Comments about engine build welcome

astephens artstephens at charter.net
Sat Jan 10 01:41:05 EST 2009


>     Unfortunately,  I did not have agreed value insurance.  I am still
> doing battle with my insurance company.  I'm just glad I got to stick
> around to learn that lesson!  :-))
>
> Art
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Christopher Kimball" <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
> To: <artstephens at charter.net>; "Pantera List Serve" <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 7:25 PM
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Comments about engine build welcome
>
>
>
> Thanks, Art.
>
> Bummer about the crash though.  I hope you had Hagerty insurance!
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>> From: artstephens at charter.net
>> To: chrisvkimball at msn.com; detomaso at realbig.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Comments about engine build welcome
>> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 13:00:29 -0800
>>
>> Christopher,
>>      I had Steve Wilkinson build me a similar engine.  I previously had a
>> 377 stroker with 4Vclosed chamber heads and the Comp Cams 32-541-8
>> hydraulic
>> roller cam.  Steve built me a 408 stroker Cleveland with a Scat crank,
>> CHI
>> 3V heads and a matching CHI dual plane manifold so I could run the
>> original
>> engine screen.  I think the 377 made 385 HP to the rear wheels.  I
>> crashed
>> my car before I got the 408 to the dyno but it was faster!  I figured
>> going
>> up in cubic inches would drop my HP and torque peak rpms by 3-400 to
>> around
>> 5400-5500,  which was fine by me.  I didn't want to rev the engine to the
>> moon anyway.  The car was fun to drive with that engine.  I used the same
>> cam in both engines.
>>
>> Art
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Christopher Kimball" <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
>> To: "Pantera List Serve" <detomaso at realbig.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 10:31 PM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Comments about engine build welcome
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Dear respective, respected forum members,
>> >
>> > I'm having a new
>> > engine built or my 1972 Pre-L and would like the forum's comments
>> > before I
>> > begin the process.  I'm looking for a strong performing and reliable
>> > street
>> > engine that will also be used 1 or 2 times a year at the
>> > track (at most).  I'd love to have 450 horsepower, too!
>> >
>> > To come up with a plan, I've been working with a very good friend and
>> > fellow Pantera owner, as well as the gentleman who will be building the
>> > engine.  We've come up with what we think will work well, but would
>> > appreciate your input, too.
>> >
>> >
>> > My
>> > main questions are:
>> >
>> > 1)  Should I stay with the Edelbrock 2665 intake or
>> > would the 7564 RPM Air Gap be a better choice.  The builder thinks the
>> > Air
>> > Gap may be too tall and might not fit under the engine cover (although
>> > I
>> > have a cut-out already for a taller air cleaner) and that it may be
>> > more
>> > appropriate for racing than street use.
>> >
>> >
>> > 2)  The cam is meant for 351 cu-in.  How should the
>> > cam specs be changed to better work with the 408 cu-in
>> > displacement?
>> >
>> > Here's the proposal so far:
>> >
>> >
>> > Block: Used 351C iron
>> > block
>> > Stroker Kit: Scat 9000 series 408 cu-in with cast crank,
>> > forged I-beam rods
>> > & forged dished
>> > pistons.
>> > Bore & Stroke: 4.030" x 4.00"
>> > Suggested RPM
>> > Limit: 6000
>> > Harmonic Dampener: SFI
>> > approved steel Pioneer
>> > 872027
>> > Timing Set:  Pro Gear true roller.
>> > Rings: Moly.
>> > Oil Pump:  Melling M-84A standard volume
>> > Oil Pump Driveshaft:  Hardened aftermarket
>> > version
>> > Oil Pan:  Armodos' 8qt
>> > with trap doors, crank scraper, windage baffle, clearance for 4"
>> > stroke
>> > Rockers: Comp Cam Pro Magnum Chrome
>> > Moly 1.7
>> > Heads:
>> > Edelbrock aluminum.
>> > Compression Ratio: 10:1
>> > Intake manifold:
>> > Edelbrock Performer 2665  Dual
>> > Plane
>> > Cam & Lifter
>> > Kit: Comp Cams retro-fit
>> > CL32-431-8 hydraulic roller
>> >
>> > Cam Specs: 224int,224exh at .050 | 110 LSA | .566" lift
>> > at 1.7:1
>> > Roller Lifter Link Kit: 31-1000 Spider and lifter wrench
>> > set
>> > Ignition: MSD Ready-to-Run.
>> > Headers:  Mind Train
>> > Exhaust: ? (I'd like to find a Mind Train exhaust system to match the
>> > headers, but if that's not possible, what would be a good, alternate
>> > choice?)
>> >
>> > Clutch: Centerforce.
>> >
>> > Thanks for any help you can offer!
>> >
>> > Sincerely,
>> >
>> > Chris
>> > #3846
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