[DeTomaso] supercharger question

Thu Aug 13 23:13:18 EDT 2009

Will, you need to reign in your tendency to exaggerate! :-)
It only has 430HP at the rear wheels.

You only have too much HP when you can't keep it on the road with your  
foot on the floor.

:-)

On 13 Aug 2009, at 9:46 PM, Will Kooiman wrote:

> If you need to experience some extra ponies, I could let you drive  
> my car
> for a while.  ;-)
>
> Better yet, I could let you drive the Insight for a while.  After  
> that,
> you'd be happy on your lawn mower.
>
> Geezz...  Give the guy a GT40 with 800HP, and suddenly nothing has  
> enough
> HP.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com 
> ] On
> Behalf Of Kirby Schrader
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 9:28 PM
> To: Will Kooiman
> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] supercharger question
>
>
> OK, Will... I disagree!
>
> My Lightning could ALWAYS use more HP. Except when I'm pulling a 24'
> trailer through the rain uphill...
> :-)
>
> At 122,000 miles, I think I need to experience some extra ponies.
> You wouldn't believe what some guys are getting out of a 'stock' 5.4
> Lightning....
>
>
> On 13 Aug 2009, at 9:19 PM, Will Kooiman wrote:
>
>> Yes - a big can of worms.
>>
>> I've posted before that I had a 93 Mustang Cobra.  It had a warmed
>> over 5.0.
>> Nothing fancy, but plenty fast enough for getting around on the
>> street.
>>
>> After I had it for several years, I finally decided that it would be
>> fun to
>> try a Vortech.  I got the kit designed for about 9lbs of boost.  I
>> forget
>> the model #.  With the Vortech, it was like driving on ice.  The
>> tires spun
>> easily.  Gas mileage did not go down.  It did not have an
>> intercooler/aftercooler.
>>
>> Another data point:  My brother has a 2003 Cobra.  It has a 4.6 dohc
>> with
>> the factory Eaton.  He has done minor mods, mostly just a smaller
>> pulley and
>> a custom tune.  He makes about 430hp to the rear wheels - from
>> 231".  That's
>> impressive.  It has an air-water cooler under the blower.  Some of
>> the 03
>> Cobra guys are getting over 500hp, and probably even 600hp to the  
>> rear
>> wheels with fairly simple mods (ported stock blower or upgrade to a
>> Kenne
>> Bell)
>>
>> My opinion - any blower will make more HP than you will use.  A twin
>> screw
>> would be easier to mount.  A centrifugal is a challenge.  A big GMC/
>> BDS
>> would be interesting if you could make it fit.  But... turbos would
>> probably
>> be even easier to mount, plus they'd make more hp.  If you're going
>> to be a
>> bear...
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
>> ] On
>> Behalf Of Kirby Schrader
>> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 9:09 PM
>> To: boyd casey
>> Cc: De Tomaso List
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] supercharger question
>>
>>
>> Oh my, Boyd! You've opened ANOTHER can of worms!
>> :-)
>>
>> Just kidding.
>>
>> What little I know...
>>
>> The Eaton rotor type works well with a nice performance increase, but
>> it adds heat as you go for more boost.
>> After all, there are a ton of them out there. I have one on my
>> Lightning.
>>
>> Most everyone going for the ultimate HP gets rid of the Eaton.
>>
>> I now bow to 'those who know'.
>>
>> Kirby
>>
>> On 13 Aug 2009, at 8:52 PM, boyd casey wrote:
>>
>>> Aside from the obvious issues ofhood clearence and rear visability
>>> whic is
>>> the best type of super harger for a cleveland or windsor engine  , a
>>> Paxton
>>> Turbine type , or a top mounted with rotors. If someone can
>>> reccomend a
>>> spscefic brand and the specs ( model #) or size relative to
>>> displacement.
>>>
>>> Boyd
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