[DeTomaso] supercharger question

Will Kooiman wkooiman at earthlink.net
Thu Aug 13 22:46:03 EDT 2009


If you need to experience some extra ponies, I could let you drive my car
for a while.  ;-)

Better yet, I could let you drive the Insight for a while.  After that,
you'd be happy on your lawn mower.

Geezz...  Give the guy a GT40 with 800HP, and suddenly nothing has enough
HP.

-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
Behalf Of Kirby Schrader
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 9:28 PM
To: Will Kooiman
Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] supercharger question


OK, Will... I disagree!

My Lightning could ALWAYS use more HP. Except when I'm pulling a 24'  
trailer through the rain uphill...
:-)

At 122,000 miles, I think I need to experience some extra ponies.
You wouldn't believe what some guys are getting out of a 'stock' 5.4  
Lightning....


On 13 Aug 2009, at 9:19 PM, Will Kooiman wrote:

> Yes - a big can of worms.
>
> I've posted before that I had a 93 Mustang Cobra.  It had a warmed  
> over 5.0.
> Nothing fancy, but plenty fast enough for getting around on the  
> street.
>
> After I had it for several years, I finally decided that it would be  
> fun to
> try a Vortech.  I got the kit designed for about 9lbs of boost.  I  
> forget
> the model #.  With the Vortech, it was like driving on ice.  The  
> tires spun
> easily.  Gas mileage did not go down.  It did not have an
> intercooler/aftercooler.
>
> Another data point:  My brother has a 2003 Cobra.  It has a 4.6 dohc  
> with
> the factory Eaton.  He has done minor mods, mostly just a smaller  
> pulley and
> a custom tune.  He makes about 430hp to the rear wheels - from  
> 231".  That's
> impressive.  It has an air-water cooler under the blower.  Some of  
> the 03
> Cobra guys are getting over 500hp, and probably even 600hp to the rear
> wheels with fairly simple mods (ported stock blower or upgrade to a  
> Kenne
> Bell)
>
> My opinion - any blower will make more HP than you will use.  A twin  
> screw
> would be easier to mount.  A centrifugal is a challenge.  A big GMC/ 
> BDS
> would be interesting if you could make it fit.  But... turbos would  
> probably
> be even easier to mount, plus they'd make more hp.  If you're going  
> to be a
> bear...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com 
> ] On
> Behalf Of Kirby Schrader
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 9:09 PM
> To: boyd casey
> Cc: De Tomaso List
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] supercharger question
>
>
> Oh my, Boyd! You've opened ANOTHER can of worms!
> :-)
>
> Just kidding.
>
> What little I know...
>
> The Eaton rotor type works well with a nice performance increase, but
> it adds heat as you go for more boost.
> After all, there are a ton of them out there. I have one on my
> Lightning.
>
> Most everyone going for the ultimate HP gets rid of the Eaton.
>
> I now bow to 'those who know'.
>
> Kirby
>
> On 13 Aug 2009, at 8:52 PM, boyd casey wrote:
>
>> Aside from the obvious issues ofhood clearence and rear visability
>> whic is
>> the best type of super harger for a cleveland or windsor engine  , a
>> Paxton
>> Turbine type , or a top mounted with rotors. If someone can
>> reccomend a
>> spscefic brand and the specs ( model #) or size relative to
>> displacement.
>>
>> Boyd
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